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<blockquote data-quote="Danzauker" data-source="post: 4487126" data-attributes="member: 1929">I don't agree.The rules say that &quot;if you want an optimal party&quot; you MUST have all the roles covered. This is indeed true.But the big question is: &quot;do you really want to have an optimal party in YOUR game?&quot;.If the answer is no, then all you have to do is having your DM adjust the encounters and campaign AROUND your party.This is why D&amp;D is not equal to a videogame. In a videogame, the &quot;dungeon master&quot; does not play WITH the players in order to adjust the setting so that everyone has fun.Besides, it's not that nobody ever had to do this before. Try playing a 3.x campaign with undead-heavy encounters without a cleric. If your DM did not tone down the monsters a good bit, you're toast.And going back to BECMI, I remember published modules stating &quot;this adventure is recommended for a party totalling X levels with at least one cleric of level Y and a magic-user of level Z&quot; or something like that IN THE FIRST PAGE of the adventure.They just didn't call them roles, but roles have always been there. Heck, even the Fantastic Four are more or less made up of a defender, a striker, a controller and a leader!!!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Danzauker, post: 4487126, member: 1929"] I don't agree. The rules say that "if you want an optimal party" you MUST have all the roles covered. This is indeed true. But the big question is: "do you really want to have an optimal party in YOUR game?". If the answer is no, then all you have to do is having your DM adjust the encounters and campaign AROUND your party. This is why D&D is not equal to a videogame. In a videogame, the "dungeon master" does not play WITH the players in order to adjust the setting so that everyone has fun. Besides, it's not that nobody ever had to do this before. Try playing a 3.x campaign with undead-heavy encounters without a cleric. If your DM did not tone down the monsters a good bit, you're toast. And going back to BECMI, I remember published modules stating "this adventure is recommended for a party totalling X levels with at least one cleric of level Y and a magic-user of level Z" or something like that IN THE FIRST PAGE of the adventure. They just didn't call them roles, but roles have always been there. Heck, even the Fantastic Four are more or less made up of a defender, a striker, a controller and a leader!!! [/QUOTE]

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