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<blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 4488765" data-attributes="member: 53980">4E is decidedly not a PvP system, so I see this point as being partly moot.&nbsp; I can't think of any monsters that can move you around using CAGI-like powers.In any case, if CAGI is such a sore point, it's well within the DM's right to rule that it isn't allowed in his game.&nbsp; I don't think that there are more than maybe a half dozen such powers, so I can't see it being game-breaking.Honestly though, I don't see it as being that big of a deal.&nbsp; Even if the fighter lures the wizard in, it isn't as though the wizard can't BAMF away on his next turn.&nbsp; Maybe the fighter is a tactical genius in his own right, and he wins this round of their mental battle.&nbsp; Maybe in the fog of battle the wizard stumbles closer to the fighter than he actually intended.&nbsp; Or maybe the fighter made a rude comment about the wizard's mother that unhinged him for a second.&nbsp; Whatever.My group considered the Improved Disarm/ Trip/ etc line of feats to be unrealistic in 3.x.&nbsp; We didn't ban those feats, players just policed themselves and didn't overuse them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fanaelialae, post: 4488765, member: 53980"] 4E is decidedly not a PvP system, so I see this point as being partly moot. I can't think of any monsters that can move you around using CAGI-like powers. In any case, if CAGI is such a sore point, it's well within the DM's right to rule that it isn't allowed in his game. I don't think that there are more than maybe a half dozen such powers, so I can't see it being game-breaking. Honestly though, I don't see it as being that big of a deal. Even if the fighter lures the wizard in, it isn't as though the wizard can't BAMF away on his next turn. Maybe the fighter is a tactical genius in his own right, and he wins this round of their mental battle. Maybe in the fog of battle the wizard stumbles closer to the fighter than he actually intended. Or maybe the fighter made a rude comment about the wizard's mother that unhinged him for a second. Whatever. My group considered the Improved Disarm/ Trip/ etc line of feats to be unrealistic in 3.x. We didn't ban those feats, players just policed themselves and didn't overuse them. [/QUOTE]

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