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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4489833" data-attributes="member: 710">To beat a possibly dead horse: Come and Get ItI particularly remember a scene in Matrix, where Neo challenges Agent Smith by a simple hand gesture. What is he doing there in a game system? Is he rolling an attack roll against Agent Smith Willpower? Did Smith fail his Will Save? I don't think any of this accurately describes it. There is nearly no way this scene could not happen the way it did happen. (I can only think of The Princess Bride where the opposite happens in a similar scene). Come and Get It sets up exactly such a scene - a scene where it just doesn't feel right for the opponents to not react to the PCs challenge. I suppose that exemplifies the narrative aspects of D&amp;D 4. In a game without narrative rules, I just wouldn't know how to setup such a scene. Would it feel believable if the PC rolls a Taunt/Bluff/Intimdiate check against the enemy? Or would it just have to be something done entirely by role-playing that scene well?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4489833, member: 710"] To beat a possibly dead horse: Come and Get It I particularly remember a scene in Matrix, where Neo challenges Agent Smith by a simple hand gesture. What is he doing there in a game system? Is he rolling an attack roll against Agent Smith Willpower? Did Smith fail his Will Save? I don't think any of this accurately describes it. There is nearly no way this scene could not happen the way it did happen. (I can only think of [i]The Princess Bride[/i] where the opposite happens in a similar scene). Come and Get It sets up exactly such a scene - a scene where it just doesn't feel right for the opponents to not react to the PCs challenge. I suppose that exemplifies the narrative aspects of D&D 4. In a game without narrative rules, I just wouldn't know how to setup such a scene. Would it feel believable if the PC rolls a Taunt/Bluff/Intimdiate check against the enemy? Or would it just have to be something done entirely by role-playing that scene well? [/QUOTE]

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