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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 1688532" data-attributes="member: 259">The Serge, believe me when I say that it wasn't the movie's depth that turned me off <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.  I got what Shyamalan was saying--how could I hnot have gotten it?  He wasn't especially subtle. But that wasn't the problem.  The acting was great, the mood was great, the themes were interesting, even the basic dilemmas were interesting.   The problem for me was twofold:1) He was clearly setting things up to be a twist, and he flubbed the twist terribly, such that instead of being a delight, it was something I dreaded (and not a good kind of dread, either).  That was, for me, a failure on his behalf as a storyteller.2) Similarly, characters at multiple points in the movie acted in mind-numbingly stupid fashions, without any motives for so acting --especially [spoiler]with keeping a monster-suit in Noah's prison[/spoiler].  Again, this was sloppy storytelling. These problems were so great for me that they really detracted from my enjoyment of the many things he did right.  It had nothing to do with the trailer, and everything to do with what I saw as structural flaws in the piece itself. And these things could've been fixed. As I said before, if he'd removed the twist element, the movie would've been tremendously improved:  the twist didn't work at all and served only to distract from the other stuff he was doing.  And thirty seconds more film-time could've removed the biggest plot-hole from the movie, and another couple minutes could've removed several other plot-holes.  To compensate for this, they could've removed such unnecessary bits as [spoiler]Noah's long chase of Ivy through the woods[/spoiler], or just made the movie a few minutes longer. When intelligent people dislike something, rather than assume those folks have lost their intelligence, it might be worthwhile to look at what their concerns were.  Obviously intelligent people can like this movie, too, but there's no cause for disappointment in us for disliking something you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. Daniel</blockquote>

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