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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Serge" data-source="post: 1688986" data-attributes="member: 4049">I'm not bothering with spoilder ques in this.  If you haven't seen the movie, you shouldn't be reading this far into the thread.  If you don't want anything spoiled, don't read any further.  See the darn movie.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Not assuming that anyone here has lost his/her intelligence.  However, I have noticed that a lot of the comments here (and elsewhere) have not revolved around the characterizations or the story, but around the twist and genre expectations.  Now, I disagree with some of your perspectives, but I don't have a problem with them.  I don't mind people not liking some of the things I like nor am I suggesting that his movie's perfect (I gave it a B- at <a href="http://community.dicefreaks.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1810" target="_blank">a Dicefreak's review</a> ).  What I find disappointing is that a lot of people are jumping up and down based upon what they wanted to happen rather than just watching the film and basing an opinion upon what it ended up being.Frankly, I thought the twist (which I figured out half-way through the film) was fine.  It wasn't surprising, but it was nice to discover that there wasn't some kind of supernatural threat in this film.  Rather, the threat was in the decisions made by the Elders and the manner in which they allowed fear of the real world to affect them and, thereby, affect their children.  I loved that.  I loved how they discover that humanity is still violent and deadly regardless of how one tries to defend against it.  I though the cop out in this film was not because of questionable plot devices (like hiding the suit under the house), but the ultimate decision of the Elders.  These people intentionally ignore that their actions will not and cannot change some of the darker elements of humanity.  They rely on fear and superstition to keep people within boundaries.  In the end, despite this recognition, they continue to essentially live a lie.  There's no indication that anyone really learned anything here.  Hell, they actually rejoice in the death of a character, using the event to perpetuate their own lies.  That's where the cop out is...This is not a perfect film.  However, I think it's a strong satire that still features troubled features.  Yet, I think there are some gems.  The clues we receive throughout.  The real twist (transferring the heroics from Lucius to Ivy was BRILLIANT) was totally unexpected to me.  I loved the acting as well, and the hyper formal language (which was so stiff that it had to be fake).  There's a lot going on in this film and it seems ashame that so many are focusing on what they wanted rather than what ended up occuring...  The limitation, IMO, is on the viewer in this case, not the director.</blockquote>

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