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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 6221868">the point is that line gets very fuzzg in a world like this. At a certain point, the governor crossed over from making these decisions because they were the tough but necessary calls to becoming adreal sociopath. The question the series poses, and has not yet answered, is how far is too far? It is interesting to me to wonder whether someone as bad as the governor can be redeemed. I think the show is giving more weight to invidual choice innate qualities. When characters cross moral boundaries it has been quite delibate (shane is a good example of this where he rationizes what it takes to survive and then decides to make that his new belief system in a way). Yes, but he was getting close to crossing the line, that is why he rejected the mantle of leader at the end off last season, he was worried about becoming the governor. absolutely agree. But we know he didn't start out that way. He chose this path, and became a sociopath by taking it. Also, let's remember, killing the people of woodbury was, even for the governor, an extreme and somewhat out of character act. His whoe justification for the things he did to that point was protecting woodbury. I think that moment was the culmination of him snappiny (something that probably started when became governor but radically increased when penny was "killed"). Clearly he was stunned by his own actions. Obviously how yourview this stuff will be shaped by your view of free will, but they appear to be taking a lockean approach here that i just find way more interesting thaf "governor's an evil sociopath and that is all theredis to it". They are showing he still has a choice but that he still carries the stains of his previous choice and this is a slow process.I am not suggestion we tolerate murder and mahem,  or excuse the governor's behavior. I am just interested in whether such a person can reverse course. It raises all kinds of interesting questions about identity and ethics. It is a very big question on a lot of people wont agree on. At what point is someone irredeemable. A redeemed governor would be advery interesting answer to that question (but that doesnt mean we tolerate or excuse the behavior). It seems to be a central question in the show. It has been lingering since shane and it was explord a bit with merle last season. In fact, the arch with merle last season was one of the truly brilliant aspects of season three in my opinion.I think they do want us to empathize with him, that is why we got his point of view. But i still dont find him a sympathetic character. I find him interesting, but not sympathetic. They are showing us a character who has some really bad qualities but is also capable of good as well. That is a bit more plausible than the cartoon version of evil you tend to get in american shows. It is just much more textured, less simple and not conclusive, which i findd lot more interesting. I also think they are not affraid to leave some questions unanswered, to let the audience debate and form their own conclusions.</blockquote>

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