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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6088819" data-attributes="member: 6696971">Could be done in a Sun Tzu or Patton motif (although both of them still scrapped) I suppose, but that might be difficult given the logistics of D&amp;D (small units and correspondingly intimate skirmishes).&nbsp; For my money though, when I think of the 4e Warlord I think of Captain Winters from Band of Brothers and Captain Miller from Saving Private Ryan; coincidentally both with completely non-martial backgrounds thrust into the role of Captains of Army Rangers.&nbsp; Interestingly enough, when an officer with strings artificially advanced through the ranks and tried to &quot;lead from the rear&quot; at Foy, near Bastogne, it almost got Easy Company massacred during the Battle of the Bulge.Its hard to be a &quot;field captain&quot; and be a &quot;leader of men&quot; and &quot;lead from the rear&quot; but I suppose it could be done.&nbsp; Are most folks thinking of the lazy-lord when considering that niche.&nbsp; The lazy-lord can still lead from the front.I'm curious what source material folks are drawing on when they think of &quot;lead from the rear&quot; battle captains/warlords.&nbsp; I'm not disputing that it can't be done or that there isn't a precedent (that can map to D&amp;D) but assuming there is, I'm just not familiar with it.&nbsp; Even Gandalf mixed it up on the front lines (class/race, he was a Fighter/Mage Angel, but thematically he was basically a warlord for FotR).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 6088819, member: 6696971"] Could be done in a Sun Tzu or Patton motif (although both of them still scrapped) I suppose, but that might be difficult given the logistics of D&D (small units and correspondingly intimate skirmishes). For my money though, when I think of the 4e Warlord I think of Captain Winters from Band of Brothers and Captain Miller from Saving Private Ryan; coincidentally both with completely non-martial backgrounds thrust into the role of Captains of Army Rangers. Interestingly enough, when an officer with strings artificially advanced through the ranks and tried to "lead from the rear" at Foy, near Bastogne, it almost got Easy Company massacred during the Battle of the Bulge. Its hard to be a "field captain" and be a "leader of men" and "lead from the rear" but I suppose it could be done. Are most folks thinking of the lazy-lord when considering that niche. The lazy-lord can still lead from the front. I'm curious what source material folks are drawing on when they think of "lead from the rear" battle captains/warlords. I'm not disputing that it can't be done or that there isn't a precedent (that can map to D&D) but assuming there is, I'm just not familiar with it. Even Gandalf mixed it up on the front lines (class/race, he was a Fighter/Mage Angel, but thematically he was basically a warlord for FotR). [/QUOTE]

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