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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6088957" data-attributes="member: 92511">So we're agreed then...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> Ok, so no one agrees on anything...but to just throw in a coupla coppers on the [semi-relevant?] topic of what the Warlord should/could/might entail...in the future...in 5e...First off, I'm of the "Warlord should be a theme/specialty takeable by any class" camp, but whether it appears that way in the "Basic" game or appears in the "Standard" product as its own class...or attached as a class [or specialty] in the "Advanced tactical options" product...I see no problem with a "Warlord" that presents the following (as best I understand the current 5e mechanics):The way I see it...the Warlord is a legitimate archetype for the genre and the game of D&D. If one looks as Fighters as being the Strength-based warrior character. Paladins, I think it safe to say, are the Wisdom-based warrior archetype. Rangers are the Intelligence Fighters. Barbarians are the Constitution fighters...Warlord fits nicely as the Charisma warrior. (and then, I suppose you'd have a Swashbuckler or Duelist or something as the Dexterity fighter to complete the list...or the Monk?...but one marginal class/theme at a time...ANYwho...) The Warlord: 1) Has an ability/trick/maneuver/whatever you want to call it that allows them to "give/spend" their combat/extra Dice on an ally's [or allies'] attack<s>, granting them some bonus to hit or damage or to perform some maneuver they don't, themselves, possess ("Grab him!") or any/all of the above.</s><s>2) Has an ability/trick/maneuver/whatever you want to call it that allows them to "unlock" allies' Hit Dice within combat.</s><s>OR that allows the Warlord to spend their OWN HD on their allies inside of combat? Maybe Warlords get more/extra HD as a class feature?</s><s>Either option, I'm not sure should be allowed more than once per combat...but I'm flexible.</s><s>3) Has an ability/trick/maneuver/whatever you want to call it that allows them to apply a bonus to saves against fear/confusion/morale effects to allies within a certain distance of the Warlord. Maybe size of the bonus and/or area of effect scales with level...maybe not...</s><s>4) Non-combat "field medic"/mundane healing skill...to, possibly, assist in the "exploring time" stuff.</s><s>i.e. You guys camp for the night? The warlord bandages folks up for an extra X hp of healing/or renewal of HD for relieving fatigue/etc...or, for literal "exploring", suppose the Thief fails a trap check and takes a crossbow bolt to the face? Or there is no Rogue and the Fighter falls into a pit? Here ya go, get back X hp/HD. No magic/spell resource drain necessary. No magic/spell -or screaming- explanation needed. Just bindin' up some wounds...something they can do outside of/in between actual combat situations to help out.</s><s>5) Non-combat negotiations/diplomacy skill...to, possibly, assist in "interacting time" stuff. (seems self-explanatory)</s><s></s><s>I think that's all it needs...and none of it breaks my immersion [or hurts my feelings] or seems ridiculously "over the top" or anything. Could be a specialty...could be a Standard Class...could be available as BOTH! Maybe the specialty one has a set number/amount of bonuses they can do/spend/effect, but the full class option (obviously) would "get better"/increase as they level up...</s><s></s><s>And, again, this is coming from someone who doesn't think they should be a class...but I could see something like this working out just fine if it were offered in the Standard game. Does that [or ANY of that, really] sound like it scratches the pro-Warlord pundits' itch?</s><s></s><s>--SD</s></blockquote>

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