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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 7877771" data-attributes="member: 5142">Anyway, as others have said, there are some current problems with just having the Warlord as part of the fighter chassis. (1) The fighter chassis is too oriented around offense and DPR; (2) the PDK is considered one of the weakest and crappiest fighter subclasses; (3) you can't be a PDK and a Battlemaster at the same time; (4) there are other Warlord-appropriate things that are not covered by either the PDK or Battlemaster that would almost be too strong if it was all included together as part of a Fighter subclass. The Warlord would not necessarily even need to be its own class. It could hypothetically be a subclass. I'm just not sure if it would be an appropriate subclass to any of the pre-existing classes, which is part of the challenge. Since it gets floated around, I will acknowledge that the EN &quot;Noble&quot; class is one possible way to do it. I would personally be most interested in expanding the Battlemaster from a &quot;1/3rd caster Warlord&quot; into a &quot;full caster Warlord.&quot; Because IMHO that would not just be an interesting Warlord but an interesting fighting class that brought the sort of tactical options that is more typically held by magic classes to the martial classes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 7877771, member: 5142"] Anyway, as others have said, there are some current problems with just having the Warlord as part of the fighter chassis. (1) The fighter chassis is too oriented around offense and DPR; (2) the PDK is considered one of the weakest and crappiest fighter subclasses; (3) you can't be a PDK and a Battlemaster at the same time; (4) there are other Warlord-appropriate things that are not covered by either the PDK or Battlemaster that would almost be too strong if it was all included together as part of a Fighter subclass. The Warlord would not necessarily even need to be its own class. It could hypothetically be a subclass. I'm just not sure if it would be an appropriate subclass to any of the pre-existing classes, which is part of the challenge. Since it gets floated around, I will acknowledge that the EN "Noble" class is one possible way to do it. I would personally be most interested in expanding the Battlemaster from a "1/3rd caster Warlord" into a "full caster Warlord." Because IMHO that would not just be an interesting Warlord but an interesting fighting class that brought the sort of tactical options that is more typically held by magic classes to the martial classes. [/QUOTE]

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