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<blockquote data-quote="Xeviat" data-source="post: 7885264" data-attributes="member: 57494"><p>Thanks! I try.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The lazylord seems more like a build that would be more appropriate in a bigger mini's game. Back in 4E, I was trying to make a Warlord build that used a squire/cohort/companion.</p><p></p><p>But, I did play a lazylord once. High Elf Tactical Warlord, took as many lazylord things as I could, had a spear for reach when I did have to fight. She was suuuper haughty and really fun to play.</p><p></p><p>I've been looking at the Ranger and Rogue a lot recently as I'm finalizing my group's Ranger changes (every group has to have one, it's a law somewhere), and I've been considering moving some of the Rogue stuff around. Then the Rogue could be a reasonable chassis for the lead from the rear type leaders, again helping with my desire to see more classes able to fill more roles.</p><p></p><p>I will say, though, that I have been convinced that the Warlord could be a class. It's broad enough conceptually to have multiple archetypes under it. It is definitely not well supported under the Battlemaster Fighter or the Mastermind Rogue; both can do a little bit of it, but they don't feel 100%. I do think the addition of the Warlord might take away from the Bard and the Fighter, though.</p><p></p><p>I won't die on the "No Warlords" hill anymore, but I will put my support behind better subclass support. I think Barbarian, Fighter, and Rogue subclasses could be made, and possibly some ability adjustments to those classes to allow leaders to be built with them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Xeviat, post: 7885264, member: 57494"] Thanks! I try. The lazylord seems more like a build that would be more appropriate in a bigger mini's game. Back in 4E, I was trying to make a Warlord build that used a squire/cohort/companion. But, I did play a lazylord once. High Elf Tactical Warlord, took as many lazylord things as I could, had a spear for reach when I did have to fight. She was suuuper haughty and really fun to play. I've been looking at the Ranger and Rogue a lot recently as I'm finalizing my group's Ranger changes (every group has to have one, it's a law somewhere), and I've been considering moving some of the Rogue stuff around. Then the Rogue could be a reasonable chassis for the lead from the rear type leaders, again helping with my desire to see more classes able to fill more roles. I will say, though, that I have been convinced that the Warlord could be a class. It's broad enough conceptually to have multiple archetypes under it. It is definitely not well supported under the Battlemaster Fighter or the Mastermind Rogue; both can do a little bit of it, but they don't feel 100%. I do think the addition of the Warlord might take away from the Bard and the Fighter, though. I won't die on the "No Warlords" hill anymore, but I will put my support behind better subclass support. I think Barbarian, Fighter, and Rogue subclasses could be made, and possibly some ability adjustments to those classes to allow leaders to be built with them. [/QUOTE]
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