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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7885759" data-attributes="member: 22779">Couple of points.Geralt of Rivea is a paladin?  How?  He doesn't heal, he certainly doesn't cure diseases and has zero religious overtones.  Vengeance paladin maybe?  Certainly not the archetype that most people go to for paladins.Conan rages?  Since when?  Does he speak to animals or have any sort of totemic spiritual bent that I missed?  Conan is nothing like a D&D barbarian.  He's about as close to a fighter as you can get.  Merlin is most certainly not a D&D wizard.  A 5e wizard is Harry Potter, not anything from fantasy written before about 1990.These aren't even close.But, for archetypes of warlord:1.  Cutter from Cook's Black Company series.  Absolutely freaking perfect warlord and actually fits rather well as a lazy lord archetype as well.2.  Multiple characters from the Malazan Fallen series, particularly many of the marine characters.3.  Sam Vimes from Pratchett's Guards Guards series.  Again, excellent example of a warlord in action.4.  Miles Vorkosigan from Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan series.  Another very excellent example of a lazy lord archetype.Now, the thing to remember is that lazy lord was never actually a class.  So, to be honest, for me anyway, if a 5e warlord precluded a lazy lord, I wouldn't have a problem to be honest.  It never was a class, so, meh, it's not a hill I will die on.But, in classic D&D style, the warlord works fantastically well.  Take it from those who actually saw it in play, instead of listening to those who simply read the books and then brushed it off.  It really does work excellently.  It's a class that requires the player to pay attention to the game and also works to draw in the attention of all the other players as well.  Think about it, in most D&D games, when it's not your turn in combat, there is generally nothing you can do.  Sure, you might get a reaction, once in a while, but, by and large, after your turn is done, if you got up, left the table, and then came back before the beginning of your next turn, it wouldn't matter.The warlord completely changes that dynamic.  Anyone can now be called on to take actions outside of their turn at any time.  Sure, it might just be movement - warlords could grant the entire group movement off turn, for example, or an extra saving throw, or an extra attack, but, the point was, you were being granted extra actions on a regular basis.  It is such a fantastic class for focusing the group on the game to a degree that you don't see otherwise.  A lazy lord or a warlord, doesn't really matter, does that.  It makes every round actually matter.  You can't take your turn and then go back to playing Candy Crush on your phone.  THAT'S what a warlord brings to the table.</blockquote>

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