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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 7192110" data-attributes="member: 20323"><p>Thanks <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I'm overhauling a lot of my work, attempting to slim it down to something similar in length to the cleric or wizard in the PHB.</p><p></p><p>What I've tried to do with the subclasses is remove cultural references. While cavalier is an exception to that, since it derives from a supporter of Charles I in the English Civil War, cavalier has been part of the game for a long time & has been used to mean "horseman." For example, it could as easily refer to a mounted German knight as it could to a Japanese samurai.</p><p></p><p>Dervish has a specific connotation to whirling dervishes in Sufi Islam. Looking at how it was interpreted in the 3e prestige class, a dervish had a bit of desert flavor and then was all about fighting with two scimitars. I'm also trying to avoid creating subclasses based around specific weapon usage/style.* For example, imagine a swashbuckler like Wesley from the Princess Bride; he fought with a rapier and a free left hand. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>As an aside, I also have an Al-Qadim conversion project that I've fallen behind with where I created a Path of the Dervish subclass for barbarians. And it fits *really* well there, letting "Rage" be reinterpreted as a mystical fervor-inspired battle dance.</p><p></p><p>*EDIT: The one exception <em>may be</em> an Archer. I'm trying to compress a bunch of archery talents into a shorter form, but it may not be possible to get them as compressed as I want; if so, that may be a sign there is enough there to create an Archer subclass. If I did go that way, I'd want to read up on the culture of Archers historically to give the subclass some narrative for a player to hang their imagination on... for example, I might look at Central Asian tribes (prodigiously skilled archers) and realize that the barbarian class doesn't really support such a ranged weapon-based character... so I might look to those tribes for inspiration... or I might look to the "archery tournament" trope often used in Robin Hood for inspiration.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 7192110, member: 20323"] Thanks :) I'm overhauling a lot of my work, attempting to slim it down to something similar in length to the cleric or wizard in the PHB. What I've tried to do with the subclasses is remove cultural references. While cavalier is an exception to that, since it derives from a supporter of Charles I in the English Civil War, cavalier has been part of the game for a long time & has been used to mean "horseman." For example, it could as easily refer to a mounted German knight as it could to a Japanese samurai. Dervish has a specific connotation to whirling dervishes in Sufi Islam. Looking at how it was interpreted in the 3e prestige class, a dervish had a bit of desert flavor and then was all about fighting with two scimitars. I'm also trying to avoid creating subclasses based around specific weapon usage/style.* For example, imagine a swashbuckler like Wesley from the Princess Bride; he fought with a rapier and a free left hand. ;) As an aside, I also have an Al-Qadim conversion project that I've fallen behind with where I created a Path of the Dervish subclass for barbarians. And it fits *really* well there, letting "Rage" be reinterpreted as a mystical fervor-inspired battle dance. *EDIT: The one exception [I]may be[/I] an Archer. I'm trying to compress a bunch of archery talents into a shorter form, but it may not be possible to get them as compressed as I want; if so, that may be a sign there is enough there to create an Archer subclass. If I did go that way, I'd want to read up on the culture of Archers historically to give the subclass some narrative for a player to hang their imagination on... for example, I might look at Central Asian tribes (prodigiously skilled archers) and realize that the barbarian class doesn't really support such a ranged weapon-based character... so I might look to those tribes for inspiration... or I might look to the "archery tournament" trope often used in Robin Hood for inspiration. [/QUOTE]
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