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The "We Can't Roleplay" in 4E Argument
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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5570752" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>Think of it as an accumulation of little mechanical/fluff changes that have accreted into a more combat-centric playstyle.</p><p></p><p>For instance, the 3.X version of the spell Hypnotism can explicitly be used in or out of combat. The 4Ed version, in contrast, has a very specific effect defined by its role in combat. Any non-combat use of it require's a DM's expansion of the power.</p><p></p><p>I guess what I'm saying is that, overall, its not that you CAN'T roleplay in 4Ed- that's clearly not the case- but rather that the roleplay space in the game is more constrained. While still vast, the restrictions are real and perceivable. Its like the concept of variably sized infinite sets: the set of numbers between 1 and 2 is infinite...but it is less infinite than the set of <em>all </em>numbers.</p><p></p><p>And for some, those constraints on roleplay gets equated with an absolute inability to roleplay.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 5570752, member: 19675"] Think of it as an accumulation of little mechanical/fluff changes that have accreted into a more combat-centric playstyle. For instance, the 3.X version of the spell Hypnotism can explicitly be used in or out of combat. The 4Ed version, in contrast, has a very specific effect defined by its role in combat. Any non-combat use of it require's a DM's expansion of the power. I guess what I'm saying is that, overall, its not that you CAN'T roleplay in 4Ed- that's clearly not the case- but rather that the roleplay space in the game is more constrained. While still vast, the restrictions are real and perceivable. Its like the concept of variably sized infinite sets: the set of numbers between 1 and 2 is infinite...but it is less infinite than the set of [I]all [/I]numbers. And for some, those constraints on roleplay gets equated with an absolute inability to roleplay. [/QUOTE]
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