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The "We Can't Roleplay" in 4E Argument
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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 5572978" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>On the Perform and "Devil Came Down to Georgia" issue:</p><p></p><p>I think that a possible answer here - and perhaps one that might satisfy at least some of the "fiction first-ers" - is that the PC should be using a skill like Diplomacy or Bluff that is applied in a way consistent with the prior depiction of the PC by that player in the game.</p><p></p><p>For example, I have a player who has made it clear from the get-go that his PC was formerly a very good baker and pastry chef. Should a baking contest ever come up, I would let that PC use his Nature and/or History skills in the bake-off to greater effect than the other PCs, who have no similar bacstory.</p><p></p><p>Another, different but related, example - I have a player who, from the get-go, has explained that his PC practices sleeping standing up. The few times it comes into play, he gets the benefit of that practice (in that he doesn't start night-time combats prone). Again, this could also make a difference to the sorts of things that player's PC can do with Endurance in a skill challenge.</p><p></p><p>Yet another example would be the difference it would make to a Diplomacy check, involving the mayor of a town, whether the PC in question was a foreigner or a member of the local nobility.</p><p></p><p>These are all cases where the pre-established fiction can be incorporated into the set-up and resolution of a skill challenge.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 5572978, member: 42582"] On the Perform and "Devil Came Down to Georgia" issue: I think that a possible answer here - and perhaps one that might satisfy at least some of the "fiction first-ers" - is that the PC should be using a skill like Diplomacy or Bluff that is applied in a way consistent with the prior depiction of the PC by that player in the game. For example, I have a player who has made it clear from the get-go that his PC was formerly a very good baker and pastry chef. Should a baking contest ever come up, I would let that PC use his Nature and/or History skills in the bake-off to greater effect than the other PCs, who have no similar bacstory. Another, different but related, example - I have a player who, from the get-go, has explained that his PC practices sleeping standing up. The few times it comes into play, he gets the benefit of that practice (in that he doesn't start night-time combats prone). Again, this could also make a difference to the sorts of things that player's PC can do with Endurance in a skill challenge. Yet another example would be the difference it would make to a Diplomacy check, involving the mayor of a town, whether the PC in question was a foreigner or a member of the local nobility. These are all cases where the pre-established fiction can be incorporated into the set-up and resolution of a skill challenge. [/QUOTE]
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