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The "We Can't Roleplay" in 4E Argument
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<blockquote data-quote="UngainlyTitan" data-source="post: 5576096" data-attributes="member: 28487"><p>I am quoting this because I think it baers repeating. I was going to make a similar point. I also do not like the d20 skill mechanic for thing where either one is competent or not. </p><p> </p><p></p><p>I agree with this also.</p><p> </p><p>However, with regard to music related challanges posited in this thread:</p><p>On the one hand there is the Orpheus challange. Can Orpheus move Hades to compassion to release Eurydice. I would view this as much more about insiight and diplomacy than perforamce. If Hades like ragtime then Orpheus will not gain much by playing death metal at him no matter what the techmical virtuosity of the performnce.</p><p> </p><p>On the other hand there is the crossroads challange. Here it is all about the performance.</p><p> </p><p>I agree that 4e does not do the latter well but I would have no problem with houseruling it.</p><p> </p><p>As to how it should be done, I would be in favour of not having background skills share the same niche as adventuring skills and to be more binary. You are competent or not kind of thing. Unless one is reqorking the whole skill mechanics.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UngainlyTitan, post: 5576096, member: 28487"] I am quoting this because I think it baers repeating. I was going to make a similar point. I also do not like the d20 skill mechanic for thing where either one is competent or not. I agree with this also. However, with regard to music related challanges posited in this thread: On the one hand there is the Orpheus challange. Can Orpheus move Hades to compassion to release Eurydice. I would view this as much more about insiight and diplomacy than perforamce. If Hades like ragtime then Orpheus will not gain much by playing death metal at him no matter what the techmical virtuosity of the performnce. On the other hand there is the crossroads challange. Here it is all about the performance. I agree that 4e does not do the latter well but I would have no problem with houseruling it. As to how it should be done, I would be in favour of not having background skills share the same niche as adventuring skills and to be more binary. You are competent or not kind of thing. Unless one is reqorking the whole skill mechanics. [/QUOTE]
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