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<blockquote data-quote="john112364" data-source="post: 5576919" data-attributes="member: 86837">First a qualifier: I love 4th edition. It is currently my game of choice. I have tons of fun with it. &nbsp;However...&nbsp;One of the things that I don't like about 4th edition is the extremely light skill system. The skills are combat oriented, even the knowledge skills. I liked the non combat skills of 3e( i.e craft, profession, perform, etc.). I understand that background and DM fiat can grant me these skills, but it would be better if they were hardwired into the system rather than an afterthought. Like Dannyalcatraz said, I like to know that I'm better than someone else rather than a random check or a &quot;Yeah sure. You're better than NPC A&quot;.&nbsp;I've actually thought about bringing over the 3e skill system to the next 4e game I run. I don't think it would be game breaking and might add some fun. (But that's a thread for the houserules forum <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="john112364, post: 5576919, member: 86837"] First a qualifier: I love 4th edition. It is currently my game of choice. I have tons of fun with it. However... One of the things that I don't like about 4th edition is the extremely light skill system. The skills are combat oriented, even the knowledge skills. I liked the non combat skills of 3e( i.e craft, profession, perform, etc.). I understand that background and DM fiat can grant me these skills, but it would be better if they were hardwired into the system rather than an afterthought. Like Dannyalcatraz said, I like to [I][U]know[/U][/I] that I'm better than someone else rather than a random check or a "Yeah sure. You're better than NPC A". I've actually thought about bringing over the 3e skill system to the next 4e game I run. I don't think it would be game breaking and might add some fun. (But that's a thread for the houserules forum ;)) [/QUOTE]

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