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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngainlyTitan" data-source="post: 5579498" data-attributes="member: 28487">Stuff like stealth preception and so forth have a lot of factors that affect success and failure and are often attempted under pressure if not in actual combat. I have no problem with variability in adventuring skills they add to the tension. I do prefer broad skills over narrow in thse circumstances.However, stuff like craft or profession are generally more binary either one knows or one does not. Now that you have me thinking about it, I can see circumstances where a 3.x style check would be appropiate like the bard overhears someone humming a refrain in the pub and is trying to id the tune, then yeah then d20 + mod vs DC is approipate but if some one asks him to play "The Foggy Dew" then he knows it or not.    As implemented I am ok with them but would prefer to drop the times a level (hours -> minutes, minutes -> rounds) However, my opportunities to play are limited and so I have not seen enough use to want to exeriment incase there are balance issued I have not seen.  I would be interested in rules for accelerating rituals or creating items that would act as ritual completion items the basic ritual could be done one plave but the final rounds could be completed elsewhere. I think it would open up some interesting scenrios. I had planned to experiment with that in my campaign when it reached paragon level but it currently looks unlikely to happen. Ah! teens getting a social life<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm    :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /> They grow up so fast.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></blockquote>

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