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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5580229" data-attributes="member: 61155"><p>In my group's level 1-30 campaign, we used them, but not often. We had to hunt down a Cure Affliction when half the party was petrified. We made regular use of the Enchanting rituals. We had some clever use of Leomund's Secret Chest. Rituals became more common at Epic, both because I was pushing them more as the DM, and the party had the money to use lesser ones with ease, and even more expensive ones could be very useful (such as summoning giant eagles, helping a boat sail the Sea of Fire in the Elemental Chaos, powerful divinations, etc.)</p><p> </p><p>So... even in a group with most inclined to ignore them, they definitely got used. </p><p> </p><p>I'm playing in two games right now, and my character in each is a Ritual Caster with a good number of rituals. In the first, this actually became a bit problematic - the DM, in trying to prepare for rituals I could cast, actually had plot events <em>based </em>on the expectation I would cast a certain ritual, and when I didn't... she had to readjust quickly. </p><p> </p><p>In the second game, my Druid hasn't had too much opportunity for rituals, but mainly because we're crawling through a dungeon filled with undead, and nature rituals don't come up that often. I still try and find creative uses, though at least one has backfired spectacularly. </p><p> </p><p>We entered a chamber with a vast underground lake, with numerous bodies floating atop it. Rather than dive into the water (where I was sure something slimy would grab us), I used the Lower Water ritual to drop a portion on the ground so we could inspect the bodies. </p><p> </p><p>And all the bodies hit the ground. And, all being undead, woke up and came after us! Along with the Black Dragon who lived in the lake. The DM originally planned to have the dragon hurl people into the lake, where a few zombies at a time would wake up due to the presence of nearby life. Instead, I managed to start the combat off with over 20 of 'em. It was an intense, dangerous fight and - most importantly - memorable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 5580229, member: 61155"] In my group's level 1-30 campaign, we used them, but not often. We had to hunt down a Cure Affliction when half the party was petrified. We made regular use of the Enchanting rituals. We had some clever use of Leomund's Secret Chest. Rituals became more common at Epic, both because I was pushing them more as the DM, and the party had the money to use lesser ones with ease, and even more expensive ones could be very useful (such as summoning giant eagles, helping a boat sail the Sea of Fire in the Elemental Chaos, powerful divinations, etc.) So... even in a group with most inclined to ignore them, they definitely got used. I'm playing in two games right now, and my character in each is a Ritual Caster with a good number of rituals. In the first, this actually became a bit problematic - the DM, in trying to prepare for rituals I could cast, actually had plot events [I]based [/I]on the expectation I would cast a certain ritual, and when I didn't... she had to readjust quickly. In the second game, my Druid hasn't had too much opportunity for rituals, but mainly because we're crawling through a dungeon filled with undead, and nature rituals don't come up that often. I still try and find creative uses, though at least one has backfired spectacularly. We entered a chamber with a vast underground lake, with numerous bodies floating atop it. Rather than dive into the water (where I was sure something slimy would grab us), I used the Lower Water ritual to drop a portion on the ground so we could inspect the bodies. And all the bodies hit the ground. And, all being undead, woke up and came after us! Along with the Black Dragon who lived in the lake. The DM originally planned to have the dragon hurl people into the lake, where a few zombies at a time would wake up due to the presence of nearby life. Instead, I managed to start the combat off with over 20 of 'em. It was an intense, dangerous fight and - most importantly - memorable. [/QUOTE]
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