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<blockquote data-quote="DevoutlyApathetic" data-source="post: 2829201" data-attributes="member: 1093">Did you actually read the post?&nbsp; He doesn't want to take Rogue 4, a full bab, +1 ref, 8 skill point and Uncanny dodge level because he wants his 13th level character to move in a more rangery direction.&nbsp; It's nowhere near class dipping for mechanical advantage.&nbsp; He's trying to avoid taking a penalty for avoiding taking the best level for him.Ranger 5 gives him....a level away from Manyshot?&nbsp; A feat that doesn't see a whole lot of use at 15th level and one he may already have for around 9 levels.While the multiclass xp penalty was trying to discourage uneven multiclassing it doesn't do it's job at all.&nbsp; It, combined with the +2 save at 1st, entices characters to take a1/b1/c1/d1/e1/Random Prestige class X.I'd suggest the OP talk with his DM and explain what you want and point out at least one more level of rogue is almost better in every way than ranger.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DevoutlyApathetic, post: 2829201, member: 1093"] Did you actually read the post? He doesn't want to take Rogue 4, a full bab, +1 ref, 8 skill point and Uncanny dodge level because he wants his 13th level character to move in a more rangery direction. It's nowhere near class dipping for mechanical advantage. He's trying to avoid taking a penalty for avoiding taking the best level for him. Ranger 5 gives him....a level away from Manyshot? A feat that doesn't see a whole lot of use at 15th level and one he may already have for around 9 levels. While the multiclass xp penalty was trying to discourage uneven multiclassing it doesn't do it's job at all. It, combined with the +2 save at 1st, entices characters to take a1/b1/c1/d1/e1/Random Prestige class X. I'd suggest the OP talk with his DM and explain what you want and point out at least one more level of rogue is almost better in every way than ranger. [/QUOTE]

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