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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The_Gneech" data-source="post: 2834075" data-attributes="member: 6779">*snerk*For anybody interested in the actual stats, <a href="http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?p=2834061" target="_blank">Celedras v4.0</a> is now up in the Rogues Gallery. Enjoy!The big problem, I think, is that I was fixating on "ThfAcr 3" as the magic number. The main quality of the Thief-Acrobat PrC that I wanted was the Fast Acrobatics, which he gets at 1st, but because I was so keen to get "through" Thief-Acrobat so I could start on Order of the Bow Initiate, I felt like I had to take Rogue to get Evasion at 2nd.Defensive Archery changed all that. It's not quite immunity to AoO's when using your bow -- it's +4 to your AC against them -- but combined with the Scout's AC bonus that gives him an AC of 26 against AoO's. Once he gets back those other two levels of ThfAcr and Agile Fighting, that'll be an AC of 27, or 30 when fighting defensively. 0.o That should do the job! That pretty much enables me to toss Order of the Bow Initiate out the window, as the extra damage from Skirmish replaces the lost Precise Shot damage nicely.At the end of the day, this version ended up with more (like, a lot more) skill points as well, so I cranked up his Hide to obscene levels to get that sniper ability I wanted, can run around the battlefield like nobody's beeswax, still makes a respectable backup Rogue (he lost two points of Disable Device but can easily make that up in the next two levels with Thief-Acrobat), and even gained a hit point! 0.o The only downsides are that he lost a point of BAB (from +11 to +10) and a point of Will save (which does hurt a bit, it was only 4 as it was).From here, he'll probably finish off Thief-Acrobat and then spend the rest of his career bouncing back and forth between Scout and Ranger, taking Manyshot, Improved Rapid Shot, and possibly Able Sniper or Penetrating Shot (from PHB 2).-The Gneech <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

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