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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5399882" data-attributes="member: 957">I think your position that other ways of playing are wrong is wrong.It is 100% true that silly whimsy things create a &quot;lot of the memories people cherish.&quot;&nbsp; But, it is also true that deeply engaging stories create a &quot;lot of the memories people cherish.&quot;&nbsp; And, depending on the game in question, whimsy can seriously undermine the value of the serious elements.&nbsp; Sometimes there is a trade-off and you are only counting one side of the ledger.You can mock serious gaming as &quot;itz iz being teh serious business mang&quot;.&nbsp; And others can just as readily mock whimsy as &quot;stupid looney toons children's fare&quot;.&nbsp; Both CAN be correct assessments, but the great majority of the time each of these assessments are far from accurate.Whimsy can be left out and the intentional prohibition of whimsy can improve the game.&nbsp; That doesn't make whimsy bad for D&amp;D, just for certain campaigns.If whimsy is chocolate chips and my favorite game style is apple pie, there is nothing at all wrong with me wanting to NOT have chocolate chips in my apple pie.&nbsp; The statements you have made seem to presume that I therefore don't like chocolate chips cookies.&nbsp; You would be very very wrong if you think that.&nbsp; You also seem to presume that not wanting chocolate chips in my apple pie means I would never enjoy an apple chocolate chip cake.&nbsp; And again, you would be very wrong.There are a lot of different campaign styles.&nbsp; You are saying that the universe of possible campaigns is smaller than it is, and further, you are making this universe smaller by condemning my personally preferred region.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 5399882, member: 957"] I think your position that other ways of playing are wrong is wrong. It is 100% true that silly whimsy things create a "lot of the memories people cherish." But, it is also true that deeply engaging stories create a "lot of the memories people cherish." And, depending on the game in question, whimsy can seriously undermine the value of the serious elements. Sometimes there is a trade-off and you are only counting one side of the ledger. You can mock serious gaming as "itz iz being teh serious business mang". And others can just as readily mock whimsy as "stupid looney toons children's fare". Both CAN be correct assessments, but the great majority of the time each of these assessments are far from accurate. Whimsy can be left out and the intentional prohibition of whimsy can improve the game. That doesn't make whimsy bad for D&D, just for certain campaigns. If whimsy is chocolate chips and my favorite game style is apple pie, there is nothing at all wrong with me wanting to NOT have chocolate chips in my apple pie. The statements you have made seem to presume that I therefore don't like chocolate chips cookies. You would be very very wrong if you think that. You also seem to presume that not wanting chocolate chips in my apple pie means I would never enjoy an apple chocolate chip cake. And again, you would be very wrong. There are a lot of different campaign styles. You are saying that the universe of possible campaigns is smaller than it is, and further, you are making this universe smaller by condemning my personally preferred region. [/QUOTE]

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