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<blockquote data-quote="feartheminotaur" data-source="post: 6821473" data-attributes="member: 6801354">Actually, no it is not.&nbsp; You misunderstand me.&nbsp; You are applying the Grapple rules (declare, make an opposed check) to Disarm.&nbsp; The Disarm rule (DMG, p 271) is an attack roll vs a skill check, NOT a contested skill check.&nbsp; It is 1d20+proficiency+attack modifier vs opponent Athletics or Acrobatics check - essentially making an attack against AC, only the &quot;AC&quot; value is equal to the target's skill check.&nbsp; There is NO check made by the attacker as a part of a Disarm attempt.&nbsp; So, your feat basically says &quot;if you hit vs AC, resolve damage, and as a bonus action you can make a disarm attempt&quot; - what is a &quot;disarm attempt&quot; at your table?&nbsp; What actually happens during that bonus action?&nbsp; Just a declaration &quot;I use a bonus action to disarm&quot; and if the target check is less than the initial attack roll then the target is disarmed?&nbsp; Or do you mean &quot;I use a bonus action to disarm&quot; and there is another roll by the attacker contested by the target?&nbsp; Because the second roll by the attacker is a house rule of an optional rule, which makes common ground for your requested feat evaluation difficult.If you want to resolve a Disarm the same as Grapple, that's fine, but when you should probably clarify that up front (e.g., &quot;I'm using my own house rule for Disarm as opposed to the optional rule outlined in the DMG&quot;) so we can provide you the feedback you requested.ETA: I see you are using the Battlemaster Disarming Attack mechanic of a save.&nbsp; In that case you don't need to add the part in the feat about being able to use your Dex since your Disarm Attack mechanic is a house rule in the first place - there is no rule that says the save DC for a Disarm Attempt (outside of being a Battlemaster using the maneuver) is &quot;8+prof+Str&quot;.&nbsp; Unless the feat is Battlemaster only.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="feartheminotaur, post: 6821473, member: 6801354"] Actually, no it is not. You misunderstand me. You are applying the Grapple rules (declare, make an opposed check) to Disarm. The Disarm rule (DMG, p 271) is an attack roll vs a skill check, NOT a contested skill check. It is 1d20+proficiency+attack modifier vs opponent Athletics or Acrobatics check - essentially making an attack against AC, only the "AC" value is equal to the target's skill check. There is NO check made by the attacker as a part of a Disarm attempt. So, your feat basically says "if you hit vs AC, resolve damage, and as a bonus action you can make a disarm attempt" - what is a "disarm attempt" at your table? What actually happens during that bonus action? Just a declaration "I use a bonus action to disarm" and if the target check is less than the initial attack roll then the target is disarmed? Or do you mean "I use a bonus action to disarm" and there is another roll by the attacker contested by the target? Because the second roll by the attacker is a house rule of an optional rule, which makes common ground for your requested feat evaluation difficult. If you want to resolve a Disarm the same as Grapple, that's fine, but when you should probably clarify that up front (e.g., "I'm using my own house rule for Disarm as opposed to the optional rule outlined in the DMG") so we can provide you the feedback [I]you[/I] requested. ETA: I see you are using the Battlemaster Disarming Attack mechanic of a save. In that case you don't need to add the part in the feat about being able to use your Dex since your Disarm Attack mechanic is a house rule in the first place - there is no rule that says the save DC for a Disarm Attempt (outside of being a Battlemaster using the maneuver) is "8+prof+Str". Unless the feat is Battlemaster only. [/QUOTE]

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