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<blockquote data-quote="Archer" data-source="post: 162590" data-attributes="member: 2950"><p>Is this limited to just WoTC classes because if you think those were bad, wait till you hear these from Librum Equis:</p><p></p><p>Tainted Warlock </p><p>Lose 7 caster level progression and gain one permanent negative level to add +2d8 to single target spells on failed save (unless it is disintegrate or slay living as specifically mentioned in the text as having damage added on either a successful or failed save, lets see that's DEATH+2d8 on a failed save.) I'm serious, that's what the whole 10 levels does. D4 hp and wizard's BAB if you were wondering. Lets compare 10 levels of this class to 10 levels of commoner. The commoner has better HP, BAB, fort, ref, more skills and an additional choice of feat. The warlock has better caster progression, better will save, 17 bonus spells (3 6th, 8 5th, 6 4th) and +2d8 damage (enhanced lace from BoEM) to single target spells and the unholy lace ability from BoEM. Who comes out on top? Its practically a tie.</p><p></p><p>Two Fisted Sorcerer of T'arg </p><p>Lose 4 caster levels for 3 rounds of haste (only for casting 2 spells in a round however) per day. Hmmm, why don't I just learn haste as a 3rd level spell and skip this whole class. Surprisingly enough, that's the only class ability. but wait you also have to take 3 weak feats (amb, imp unarmed strike, still spell) and 12 skill ranks to take this class.</p><p></p><p>I don't see how any prestige class could top these two. I think there is one more worth mentioning through.</p><p></p><p>Zombie Master (5 levels)</p><p>Command twice as many undead. This is a whole prestige class? Pale Master, Master of Shrouds and True Necromancer are 10x the PrC that this is so before you complain about those you should know how bad it can get. BTW, this is a feat in some other book, Undead, I think.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archer, post: 162590, member: 2950"] Is this limited to just WoTC classes because if you think those were bad, wait till you hear these from Librum Equis: Tainted Warlock Lose 7 caster level progression and gain one permanent negative level to add +2d8 to single target spells on failed save (unless it is disintegrate or slay living as specifically mentioned in the text as having damage added on either a successful or failed save, lets see that's DEATH+2d8 on a failed save.) I'm serious, that's what the whole 10 levels does. D4 hp and wizard's BAB if you were wondering. Lets compare 10 levels of this class to 10 levels of commoner. The commoner has better HP, BAB, fort, ref, more skills and an additional choice of feat. The warlock has better caster progression, better will save, 17 bonus spells (3 6th, 8 5th, 6 4th) and +2d8 damage (enhanced lace from BoEM) to single target spells and the unholy lace ability from BoEM. Who comes out on top? Its practically a tie. Two Fisted Sorcerer of T'arg Lose 4 caster levels for 3 rounds of haste (only for casting 2 spells in a round however) per day. Hmmm, why don't I just learn haste as a 3rd level spell and skip this whole class. Surprisingly enough, that's the only class ability. but wait you also have to take 3 weak feats (amb, imp unarmed strike, still spell) and 12 skill ranks to take this class. I don't see how any prestige class could top these two. I think there is one more worth mentioning through. Zombie Master (5 levels) Command twice as many undead. This is a whole prestige class? Pale Master, Master of Shrouds and True Necromancer are 10x the PrC that this is so before you complain about those you should know how bad it can get. BTW, this is a feat in some other book, Undead, I think. [/QUOTE]
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