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<blockquote data-quote="Geron Raveneye" data-source="post: 3751134" data-attributes="member: 2268"><p>Just to contrast it with ad blurbs for 3E like this one here...</p><p></p><p><em>Why is this new D&D such terrific fun? The new system smooths out all the old rules' quirks and bumps, creating gameplay that is easy to understand and quick moving, yet with more depth than ever. Combat is much easier to conduct, but it's more exact, always making it clear exactly what's happening. The full-fledged skill system allows characters to do many tasks that fall outside their stereotypical roles. This means that characters in the same class aren't all clones. A fighter can be a slow brute with an axe or a lithe, rapier-wielding acrobat. All this customizability leads to more engaging characters and more opportunities for roleplaying.</em></p><p></p><p>....which for some reason sounds, in a lot of things, like the stuff being touted for 4E now. Faster, smoother gameplay, quick but exact combat (heh), characters in one class that are very different from each other, fighters for whom weapon choices can make a difference (sound familiar, anyone?), more engaging characters and more opportunities for roleplaying.</p><p></p><p>Which is why I'm sure we'll get to hear the same sermon replayed in 7-8 years time (IF that long), when they get ready to hit us with 5E. And just because every other brand is doing it that way doesn't mean it's not twice as annoying when it comes from the producer of my most favorite passtime, because every time they try to make me feel like the game I play, and how I play it, suffers and is inferior for all the "errors" it contains. Which is what's getting on my nerves a bit, and probably not just mine. It simply would be nice if the PR specialists found some other way to advertise their new game edition without trying to blackpaint the older ones. And yes, that video WAS insulting to every gamer who did a tiny bit of his own creative thinking to get around any potholes in the rules quickly while having fun playing. Doubly so since there will be enough potholes in 4E to require the same creativity and improvisation to get around for certain. No rule system is perfect, much less for every player, which is something 3.X proved in abundance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Geron Raveneye, post: 3751134, member: 2268"] Just to contrast it with ad blurbs for 3E like this one here... [i]Why is this new D&D such terrific fun? The new system smooths out all the old rules' quirks and bumps, creating gameplay that is easy to understand and quick moving, yet with more depth than ever. Combat is much easier to conduct, but it's more exact, always making it clear exactly what's happening. The full-fledged skill system allows characters to do many tasks that fall outside their stereotypical roles. This means that characters in the same class aren't all clones. A fighter can be a slow brute with an axe or a lithe, rapier-wielding acrobat. All this customizability leads to more engaging characters and more opportunities for roleplaying.[/i] ....which for some reason sounds, in a lot of things, like the stuff being touted for 4E now. Faster, smoother gameplay, quick but exact combat (heh), characters in one class that are very different from each other, fighters for whom weapon choices can make a difference (sound familiar, anyone?), more engaging characters and more opportunities for roleplaying. Which is why I'm sure we'll get to hear the same sermon replayed in 7-8 years time (IF that long), when they get ready to hit us with 5E. And just because every other brand is doing it that way doesn't mean it's not twice as annoying when it comes from the producer of my most favorite passtime, because every time they try to make me feel like the game I play, and how I play it, suffers and is inferior for all the "errors" it contains. Which is what's getting on my nerves a bit, and probably not just mine. It simply would be nice if the PR specialists found some other way to advertise their new game edition without trying to blackpaint the older ones. And yes, that video WAS insulting to every gamer who did a tiny bit of his own creative thinking to get around any potholes in the rules quickly while having fun playing. Doubly so since there will be enough potholes in 4E to require the same creativity and improvisation to get around for certain. No rule system is perfect, much less for every player, which is something 3.X proved in abundance. [/QUOTE]
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