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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wanderer9" data-source="post: 3751400" data-attributes="member: 8783">In 1974 the Original D&D was released.  Between 1977 & 1979 it went through various changes and became 1st Edition.  It was 10 years before 2nd Edition came along and then 11 years before 3rd Edition.  We had 3rd Edition for 3 years before the upgrade to 3.5 and now less than 5 years after that, we have 4th Edition.I believe that the changes from 2e to 3e did a great deal to improve the game and yes there were still problems with 3e which were by in large corrected by 3.5.  However I questioned the approach used to "sell" the changes between 3e and 3.5.  In my opinion (yes its only mine) it would have been better for gamers if WotC released 3.5e products that "updated" the 3e system without the players having to rebuy all the core books again.  Yes an option should have been available for players to buy the revised core books if the wanted / could afford it, but a smaller cut down version detailing the difference could also have been made available, for those less able to afford the costs.Suddenly out of the blue ( <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> ok tongue in cheek), 4e comes onto the sceen.  Now WotC tell about all the wonderful things that 4e will allow and all you have to do is rebuy their products (again).  However this means a large chunk of material they have been releasing over the past few years will not usable with 4e.  How do I know this you ask?  Well I don't but based on what has been said about not being able to convert Living Greyhawk etc. it certainly looks that way.  So will WotC be releasing "add-ons" that allow 3.5e material to be upgraded to 4e or are we going to be expted to buy everything again?For the last 5 years there have been a huge amount of products coming out of WotC to support D&D and, although I have no facts to base this, I believe the community playing D&D has grown.  I wonder how all these will react if it becomes apparant that a lot of what they have purchased is now obsolete.  Yes I know that people do not have to purchase 4e, but if you want to play Living FR they you will have to purchase some of the books and there will no longer be any products created to support 3.5e.I have no doubt that 4e will bring improvements to D&D, but I do question the motive of the company that is doing this release.  I appreciate that WotC / Hasbro need to make a profit, but I wish it was because they sold quality products and supported a gaming community which would allow the hobby to grow, rather than try to rubbish a product they raved about 12 months ago and tried to convince us all about the improvements a product will bring which we will not see for at least another 6 months.For all those of you who complain about rules, they are only guidelines and a DM can change them any way they please.  The whole concept of D&D was about having fun, not blindly following a bunch of words in a book.What I hope we see from WotC in the future are quality products and not just marketting ploys to get people to waste their money on products they push just to make money rather than enhance the gaming experience.  If the quality is good the customers will come back for more.  WotC might even make more profit because people will discuss the quaility and more will be bought.Thats my 2p's worth anyway.</blockquote>

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