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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3754425" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>Frankly, we don't have enough information to know that this is the case. Given, as you say, that "in our specific case of role playing games, it is possible that some problems are a matter of personal perception, so it is possible that changes are progressive for some, but not for everyone" all we know is that the designers are saying that they see these changes as progressive. </p><p></p><p>Of course, WotC also said that 4e wasn't coming any time soon, just prior to the release announcement.</p><p></p><p>I will grant you, gratis, that at least <em>some</em> of these changes are progressive, but it seems to me that some of these changes are cosmetic, driven by a need to differentiate the editions enough to warrant you buying a whole new set of books, while others might seem progressive only from the narrow vantage of the designers (and those who play like the designers). </p><p></p><p>Some of the changes from 3.0 to 3.5, for instance, seem driven by the need to sell minis to me, whereas others (IMHO) were simply bad choices. They did a lot of good, perhaps, with some things, but there were some real boneheaded moves (again, IMHO) that they now seem intent on fixing (which is, in itself, a good thing).</p><p></p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 3754425, member: 18280"] Frankly, we don't have enough information to know that this is the case. Given, as you say, that "in our specific case of role playing games, it is possible that some problems are a matter of personal perception, so it is possible that changes are progressive for some, but not for everyone" all we know is that the designers are saying that they see these changes as progressive. Of course, WotC also said that 4e wasn't coming any time soon, just prior to the release announcement. I will grant you, gratis, that at least [i]some[/i] of these changes are progressive, but it seems to me that some of these changes are cosmetic, driven by a need to differentiate the editions enough to warrant you buying a whole new set of books, while others might seem progressive only from the narrow vantage of the designers (and those who play like the designers). Some of the changes from 3.0 to 3.5, for instance, seem driven by the need to sell minis to me, whereas others (IMHO) were simply bad choices. They did a lot of good, perhaps, with some things, but there were some real boneheaded moves (again, IMHO) that they now seem intent on fixing (which is, in itself, a good thing). RC [/QUOTE]
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