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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DrunkonDuty" data-source="post: 3818020" data-attributes="member: 54364">It's a problem. In my games I get around it by removing the limit of HD that can be controlled. The number animated per casting of the spell is still limited. This means my BBEG can have as many zombies as I want to give him/her. ANd I limit PC zombie hordes by limiting access to the necessary corpses. Of course if a player really wanted to put in the work then they could get a literal army of zombies. Hey, if they're putting in the work then that's OK by me. It will lead to extra plots, NPC interaction, fights and all the stuf that is gaming.But this doesn't fix the problem you described about zombies being less than effective at any sort high of level. But it could help with a re-adjustment of the animate dead spell. Just an initial thought, but how's this: The necromancer can invest more negative energy into zombies/skellies if they want to, thereby creating higher HD undead. They could still only animate undead = to 4 x their level per spell casting but the undead could have higher HD, limited to say equal to half the caster level.Combined these 2 re-intrepretations allow for the BBEG to have hordes of tougher zombies. The 7th level necromancer could have hordes of 4HD zombies. In game I'd describe their extra ability to soak up damage as being hacked apart but still coming with that same slow, mindless determination.Personally I'm a big fan of shuffling armies raised by necromancers. It's a staple of the genre and the rules should allow for it to be part of the game.cheers,</blockquote>

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