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<blockquote data-quote="Shuffle" data-source="post: 1483335" data-attributes="member: 16724"><p>I would say that since those are all done in the kings name ( and therefore with his permission) then yes Franco was lawful ( since permission comes from the king he's broken no laws). But I would argue that Franco was actually evil (blackmail, general disregard for people around him). The good deeds don't affect his alignment since if they're inconvenient he will stop doing them. But he won't go out of his way to not perform an evil act.</p><p> Since D&D is black and white in its outlook, stealing isn't inherantly evil but it does break laws which is generally chaotic. ( A lawful character would attempt to change the system from within rather than resort to theft). Killing isn't inherantly evil either... but killing innocents always is, so is causing the suffering of innocents. Personally in my opinion I think its best to let the heros save the village, city, world, plane of existance, or universe without sacrificing innocent NPC's; because in general thats what D&D is about (officially anyways).</p><p></p><p>But Stealing isn't evil or chaotic --- its the intent of the action that makes it chaotic or evil or both</p><p></p><p>ie. stealing the peasents tax money to buy a sword ---- chaotic evil</p><p> stealing the barons tax money and giving to the poor --chaotic good</p><p> unless of course you've attempted to have the taxes lowered first </p><p> taxing the peasents to death -- Lawful evil</p><p> not stealing and getting taxes lowered ---- Lawful Good (assuming that you don't kill said baron in his sleep. But the stealing from the dea issue? thats a bit much unless it wasn't an abandoned area (The kings ancestral crypt may be stealing)</p><p></p><p> whew... hope that made sense, time for bed</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shuffle, post: 1483335, member: 16724"] I would say that since those are all done in the kings name ( and therefore with his permission) then yes Franco was lawful ( since permission comes from the king he's broken no laws). But I would argue that Franco was actually evil (blackmail, general disregard for people around him). The good deeds don't affect his alignment since if they're inconvenient he will stop doing them. But he won't go out of his way to not perform an evil act. Since D&D is black and white in its outlook, stealing isn't inherantly evil but it does break laws which is generally chaotic. ( A lawful character would attempt to change the system from within rather than resort to theft). Killing isn't inherantly evil either... but killing innocents always is, so is causing the suffering of innocents. Personally in my opinion I think its best to let the heros save the village, city, world, plane of existance, or universe without sacrificing innocent NPC's; because in general thats what D&D is about (officially anyways). But Stealing isn't evil or chaotic --- its the intent of the action that makes it chaotic or evil or both ie. stealing the peasents tax money to buy a sword ---- chaotic evil stealing the barons tax money and giving to the poor --chaotic good unless of course you've attempted to have the taxes lowered first taxing the peasents to death -- Lawful evil not stealing and getting taxes lowered ---- Lawful Good (assuming that you don't kill said baron in his sleep. But the stealing from the dea issue? thats a bit much unless it wasn't an abandoned area (The kings ancestral crypt may be stealing) whew... hope that made sense, time for bed [/QUOTE]
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