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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 1485921" data-attributes="member: 8835">Perhaps another way to look at it is to examine the alignment of the victim.Going by extremes here, let's assume all the villagers are good, and the orcs are evil.&nbsp; If we always look at things from the good guy side and describe the actions as such, it makes sense.If I steal from a villager, that's wrong because they're good and I'm hurting themIf I steal from an orc, that's good because they're evil and I'm hurting themThink of it as factions in some war.&nbsp; It's OK to hurt guys on the evil faction.&nbsp; It's not ok to hurt guys on the good faction.&nbsp; In most of the examples given by others where stealing was OK, the victim was &quot;evil&quot; in some way.One can also look at my above example by effect and reach the same conclusion.&nbsp;&nbsp; Stealing from orcs, hurts the evil guys.If we look at it by motive, then it becomes fuzzy.Why was I stealing from orcs?To get food?To get something back they took?To hurt them?To get rich?They were there (meaning I would have robbed anybody who came down the trail)?If you want to keep it simple, I suggest examining victim and effect, and ignoring the motive.Janx</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Janx, post: 1485921, member: 8835"] Perhaps another way to look at it is to examine the alignment of the victim. Going by extremes here, let's assume all the villagers are good, and the orcs are evil. If we always look at things from the good guy side and describe the actions as such, it makes sense. If I steal from a villager, that's wrong because they're good and I'm hurting them If I steal from an orc, that's good because they're evil and I'm hurting them Think of it as factions in some war. It's OK to hurt guys on the evil faction. It's not ok to hurt guys on the good faction. In most of the examples given by others where stealing was OK, the victim was "evil" in some way. One can also look at my above example by effect and reach the same conclusion. Stealing from orcs, hurts the evil guys. If we look at it by motive, then it becomes fuzzy. Why was I stealing from orcs? To get food? To get something back they took? To hurt them? To get rich? They were there (meaning I would have robbed anybody who came down the trail)? If you want to keep it simple, I suggest examining victim and effect, and ignoring the motive. Janx [/QUOTE]

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