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Message: <blockquote data-quote="generalchaos34" data-source="post: 5554305" data-attributes="member: 96769">so pretty much its damned if you do, damned if you dont for them.If they released DS style themes the cries would have been: "ACK!  Power Creep!" "EEK! Why wont my essentials subclass use these?""MWUHAHA! See the abandoned the essentials formats because it was a failure, i was right and all other opinions are invalid!"and "They took away the thing that made DS special! Its a harsh world and this is how the PCs could survive!!"What we get now is not bad at all, infact, considering that you got them instead of NONE at all, im damned grateful to get some official support, yet im still hearing..."ARRR!! These arent powerful enough for my taste!""MEEP! These are too powerful, too much creep!""Mulp! Why arent these like the DS ones! I demand sameness and refuse to use those instead!"and"RWARR!! Why are essentials classes allowed to associate with this material! HOW DARE THE SUPPORT OTHER CLASSES I DONT LIKE!!!"Also, the nitpicking quote thing is really annoying, i was hoping to talk about the particulars of the actual themes themselves, not a forum for airing your Dislike of some edition or perceived notion of that it being an edition or what not, thats what the Wotc forums are for.</blockquote>