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<blockquote data-quote="Colmarr" data-source="post: 5527605" data-attributes="member: 59182"><p>I think you're over-reading the power. And I hope the rules aren't as stuffy about what constitutes an attack as you imply.</p><p> </p><p>The power says simply "<span style="font-family: 'BaileySansITCStd-Book'"><span style="font-family: 'BaileySansITCStd-Book'"><span style="font-family: 'BaileySansITCStd-Book'"><span style="font-family: 'BaileySansITCStd-Book'">The next time the ally would make an attack roll for that power during this encounter, he must instead use the rolled result. <span style="font-family: 'BaileySansITCStd-Book'"><span style="font-family: 'BaileySansITCStd-Book'"><strong>If the power has</strong> <strong>multiple</strong> targets or <strong>attack rolls, only the first roll is replaced</strong>."</span></span></span></span> </span></span></p><p> </p><p>While I agree that the text as written would prevent re-rolls such as Elven Accuracy, I think the bolded text preserves things like the Oath class feature and Ranger powers like Split the Tree.</p><p> </p><p>As for powers that grant bonuses (as opposed to re-rolls), I don't see how they come into it at all. <em>Look skyward</em> determines the result of your die roll. There's nothing there that prevents you adding combat advantage or any other circumstantial bonus, regardless of whether it is power-based or not.</p><p> </p><p>Having said all that, the fact that we are having the discussion at all is evidence that misunderstanding is possible. Perhaps re-word as:</p><p> </p><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></p><p style="text-align: left">PS. It's no doubt discussions like this that make writing for RPGs a professional's game. The intent behind the power is abundantly clear, and anyone trying to raise the "it's not an attack roll" argument at an actual table should IMO be soundly beaten.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Colmarr, post: 5527605, member: 59182"] I think you're over-reading the power. And I hope the rules aren't as stuffy about what constitutes an attack as you imply. The power says simply "[FONT=BaileySansITCStd-Book][FONT=BaileySansITCStd-Book][FONT=BaileySansITCStd-Book][FONT=BaileySansITCStd-Book]The next time the ally would make an attack roll for that power during this encounter, he must instead use the rolled result. [FONT=BaileySansITCStd-Book][FONT=BaileySansITCStd-Book][B]If the power has[/B] [B]multiple[/B] targets or [B]attack rolls, only the first roll is replaced[/B]."[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT] [/FONT][/FONT] While I agree that the text as written would prevent re-rolls such as Elven Accuracy, I think the bolded text preserves things like the Oath class feature and Ranger powers like Split the Tree. As for powers that grant bonuses (as opposed to re-rolls), I don't see how they come into it at all. [I]Look skyward[/I] determines the result of your die roll. There's nothing there that prevents you adding combat advantage or any other circumstantial bonus, regardless of whether it is power-based or not. Having said all that, the fact that we are having the discussion at all is evidence that misunderstanding is possible. Perhaps re-word as: [LEFT][FONT=BaileySansITCStd-Book][SIZE=1][FONT=BaileySansITCStd-Book][SIZE=1][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/LEFT] [LEFT]PS. It's no doubt discussions like this that make writing for RPGs a professional's game. The intent behind the power is abundantly clear, and anyone trying to raise the "it's not an attack roll" argument at an actual table should IMO be soundly beaten.[/LEFT] [/QUOTE]
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