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Theocracy vs. Magocracy: who would win?
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<blockquote data-quote="The Furious Puffin" data-source="post: 112650" data-attributes="member: 614"><p>IMHO It would seem whoever has the greatest number of mid to high level soldiers will win.</p><p></p><p>Why? </p><p></p><p>A high level fighter (16) is capable of slaughtering any number of low level troops, while they are unable to hit him (Isn't the rule that 20 is an auto hit and 1 an automatic miss an optional rule?) as he has AC 10+1 (Dex) +9 (Full plate) +5 (Magic/Hasted/Ring of Protection/Whatever) for AC 25. Even the toughest 1st level character is unable to hit him. However, he can decimated whole reigments in one round using PrCs like Master Samurai. (Cleave, 5-foot step, cleave, wash, rinse, repeat. If he teleported in and had expert tactican, he could have two cracks at everyone! A marching coloum of level one foot soldiers could be wiped out by one man in less than a second.)</p><p></p><p>A 9 level sorcerer can kill dozens of pikemens with a few fireballs. Or whole groups of clerics/mages</p><p></p><p>Futhermore at 20th level rogue with the right magic items has a Hide skill of 40. Even the most perceptive low-level guard cannot see him, and his is more than capable of killing anyone he gets the drop on (Ring of blinking expert tactician etc)</p><p></p><p>What such a war would come down to is the numbers of such mid-high level characters who are effectively immune to the "grunts" on either side, but can kill them with ease.</p><p></p><p>In that that theocray may have an advantage, because there high level characters can resurrect each other, but high level wizards can cuase enmourous amounts of damage.</p><p></p><p>However, I thing the mageocracy would win in the final count, becuase its leader, an Elven Level 10 Wizard/Incantrix, casts persistant time-stop and then kills every person in the other land, by recasting persistant time stop every 12 hours (unless that has been errated - but I don't think it has) and carpet bombing the world in meteor swarm.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Furious Puffin, post: 112650, member: 614"] IMHO It would seem whoever has the greatest number of mid to high level soldiers will win. Why? A high level fighter (16) is capable of slaughtering any number of low level troops, while they are unable to hit him (Isn't the rule that 20 is an auto hit and 1 an automatic miss an optional rule?) as he has AC 10+1 (Dex) +9 (Full plate) +5 (Magic/Hasted/Ring of Protection/Whatever) for AC 25. Even the toughest 1st level character is unable to hit him. However, he can decimated whole reigments in one round using PrCs like Master Samurai. (Cleave, 5-foot step, cleave, wash, rinse, repeat. If he teleported in and had expert tactican, he could have two cracks at everyone! A marching coloum of level one foot soldiers could be wiped out by one man in less than a second.) A 9 level sorcerer can kill dozens of pikemens with a few fireballs. Or whole groups of clerics/mages Futhermore at 20th level rogue with the right magic items has a Hide skill of 40. Even the most perceptive low-level guard cannot see him, and his is more than capable of killing anyone he gets the drop on (Ring of blinking expert tactician etc) What such a war would come down to is the numbers of such mid-high level characters who are effectively immune to the "grunts" on either side, but can kill them with ease. In that that theocray may have an advantage, because there high level characters can resurrect each other, but high level wizards can cuase enmourous amounts of damage. However, I thing the mageocracy would win in the final count, becuase its leader, an Elven Level 10 Wizard/Incantrix, casts persistant time-stop and then kills every person in the other land, by recasting persistant time stop every 12 hours (unless that has been errated - but I don't think it has) and carpet bombing the world in meteor swarm. [/QUOTE]
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