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Theory Crafting fun: Max AC with Standard Array, without Feats, and without GM provided magic items?
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<blockquote data-quote="ClaytonCross" data-source="post: 7913264" data-attributes="member: 6880599"><p>Haste Spell: "That action can be used only to take <strong>the Attack</strong> (one weapon attack only), Dash, Disengage, Hide, or <strong>Use an Object action</strong>. "</p><p></p><p>- It would have to be the attack or use object action for haste.</p><p></p><p>SSI: "While holding the <strong>object</strong>, a creature can take an <strong><u>action</u> to produce the spell’s effect</strong> from it, using your spellcasting ability modifier. "</p><p></p><p>- It's an object interaction per Spell Storing Item. This is likely in part because some spells you might put in it are not attacks as with the for mentioned disguise self.</p><p></p><p>DMG p.141 "If an item <strong>requires an action to activate</strong>, that action isn't a function of the Use an Item action, so a feature such as the <strong>rogue's Fast Hands</strong> can't be used to activate the item."</p><p></p><p>- Because its an object interaction that uses an action its disqualified form the "use an object" from the PHB p193. I don't think "<strong>use an <u>object</u> action</strong>" is different from "<strong>Use an <u>Item</u> action</strong>". I am pretty sure its the same thing but just written at different times and they missed lining up the language of item and object. Which I can confirm because while the item interaction paragraph in the DMG says "Item" the example in the PHB of fast hand's uses "object"</p><p></p><p><strong>Fast Hands</strong> (PHB .p97)</p><p>Starting at 3rd level, you can use the bonus action granted by your Cunning A ction to make a Dexterity (Sleight of Hand) check, use your thieves’ tools to disarm a trap or open a lock, or take the Use an <strong>Object action</strong>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ClaytonCross, post: 7913264, member: 6880599"] Haste Spell: "That action can be used only to take [B]the Attack[/B] (one weapon attack only), Dash, Disengage, Hide, or [B]Use an Object action[/B]. " - It would have to be the attack or use object action for haste. SSI: "While holding the [B]object[/B], a creature can take an [B][U]action[/U] to produce the spell’s effect[/B] from it, using your spellcasting ability modifier. " - It's an object interaction per Spell Storing Item. This is likely in part because some spells you might put in it are not attacks as with the for mentioned disguise self. DMG p.141 "If an item [B]requires an action to activate[/B], that action isn't a function of the Use an Item action, so a feature such as the [B]rogue's Fast Hands[/B] can't be used to activate the item." - Because its an object interaction that uses an action its disqualified form the "use an object" from the PHB p193. I don't think "[B]use an [U]object[/U] action[/B]" is different from "[B]Use an [U]Item[/U] action[/B]". I am pretty sure its the same thing but just written at different times and they missed lining up the language of item and object. Which I can confirm because while the item interaction paragraph in the DMG says "Item" the example in the PHB of fast hand's uses "object" [B]Fast Hands[/B] (PHB .p97) Starting at 3rd level, you can use the bonus action granted by your Cunning A ction to make a Dexterity (Sleight of Hand) check, use your thieves’ tools to disarm a trap or open a lock, or take the Use an [B]Object action[/B]. [/QUOTE]
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