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<blockquote data-quote="Laurefindel" data-source="post: 7559333" data-attributes="member: 67296"><p>As mentioned before, your maths support even less use of the versatile quality than RaW, because 1d10-2 is inferior to 1d8 in every way. So I can't see why anyone would use a versatile weapon one-handed over a fixed 1d8 weapon. And if an equivalent 1d12 or 2d6 two-handed weapon exists, I don't see why anyone would take the 1d10 versatile (two-handed) weapon in the first place.</p><p></p><p>However, stating that a longsword, for example, is a 1d10 two-handed weapon (versatile 1d8 when wielded one-handed) is not without merit since it opens the weapon to GWM. It does prevent small races from wielding them altogether however, leaving halflings and gnomes with a very limited selection of weapon usable two-handed.</p><p></p><p>So I agree that versatile weapons are... unsatisfying?, but I don't think penalty to damage is the way to go.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Laurefindel, post: 7559333, member: 67296"] As mentioned before, your maths support even less use of the versatile quality than RaW, because 1d10-2 is inferior to 1d8 in every way. So I can't see why anyone would use a versatile weapon one-handed over a fixed 1d8 weapon. And if an equivalent 1d12 or 2d6 two-handed weapon exists, I don't see why anyone would take the 1d10 versatile (two-handed) weapon in the first place. However, stating that a longsword, for example, is a 1d10 two-handed weapon (versatile 1d8 when wielded one-handed) is not without merit since it opens the weapon to GWM. It does prevent small races from wielding them altogether however, leaving halflings and gnomes with a very limited selection of weapon usable two-handed. So I agree that versatile weapons are... unsatisfying?, but I don't think penalty to damage is the way to go. [/QUOTE]
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