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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 6959162" data-attributes="member: 12731">Well... There are at least half a dozen rules in D&amp;D changed between 5E and previous editions, all in favor of ranged combat.So while you might be correct about the 5e haven't paid attention and previous editions haven't either, there still is a difference.Previous editions didn't have to. 5e probably should have.ZappPS. I guess it boils down to the fact how many players look no further than their immediate numbers. Even if a bow would in practice still be more effective over the long run, the small fact that the immediate number (say 1d10+2) is noticeably lower than the melee weapon (1d12+4 say) meant ranged builds never played such a prominent part. Example assuming strength-based damage or composite bows, where the archer has a 14 in his secondary Strength ability, whereas the greatweapon user has an 18 in her primary Strength ability.What I'm saying is that you can still be right. It still doesn't mean changing the numbers is pointless.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 6959162, member: 12731"] Well... There are at least half a dozen rules in D&D changed between 5E and previous editions, all in favor of ranged combat. So while you might be correct about the 5e haven't paid attention and previous editions haven't either, there still is a difference. Previous editions didn't have to. 5e probably should have. Zapp PS. I guess it boils down to the fact how many players look no further than their immediate numbers. Even if a bow would in practice still be more effective over the long run, the small fact that the immediate number (say 1d10+2) is noticeably lower than the melee weapon (1d12+4 say) meant ranged builds never played such a prominent part. [SIZE=1]Example assuming strength-based damage or composite bows, where the archer has a 14 in his secondary Strength ability, whereas the greatweapon user has an 18 in her primary Strength ability.[/SIZE] What I'm saying is that you can still be right. It still doesn't mean changing the numbers is pointless. [/QUOTE]

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