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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shadowdweller00" data-source="post: 6961197" data-attributes="member: 6778479">Yeah, that's another good point I didn't elaborate on as well as I should have.  Just because the enemy is seen and/or recognized doesn't necessarily mean that combat begins immediately.  Nor that sniping is an option.Example:  Kobold pokes its head out of long grass from far away, gets seen by the PCs, quickly drops back down where it can't be seen.  I don't personally have the players roll initiative at that point because there's not necessarily an instant flurry of attacks and counterattacks.  But the PCs definitely know there's an enemy (or potential enemy) out there; and can make appropriate preparations or responses.</blockquote>