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<blockquote data-quote="TwoSix" data-source="post: 8795499" data-attributes="member: 205">Oh, I don't think 5e is anywhere close to balanced.&nbsp; But inefficient characters simply aren't as fun at the table, for me.&nbsp; Why would I want to stare at some unneeded trivia on my character sheet that means nothing to my character, simply because it came with my class?Yes, absolutely.&nbsp; The one time I had a character play a &quot;Dex fighter&quot;, I compensated them for the unused heavy armor proficiency.&nbsp; (I gave them Medium Armor Mastery instead.) Well, I much prefer specialized casters with just a few spells over the broad generalization of standard 5e casters, so I'm probably not the best person to ask. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; Fair point.&nbsp; If a player brought it to my attention that they really wanted to trade out their weapon proficiencies to specialize, I would compensate them.&nbsp; Most martial types want the option to be able to use found magic weapons, though, since my games have fairly frequent and randomized items.[ATTACH=full]263521[/ATTACH]I like crunchy character building games plenty, but I've been arguing for a while now that D&amp;D would work better for its default playstyle if the game had limited options at the player end and encouraged fiction-based, diegetic character growth.Basically, make standard D&amp;D more like a Troika! or Electric Bastionland, with dozens of low-weight starting options and then unfettered abilities, gained during play, from there.&nbsp;&nbsp; No real character building at all, pick an option and play.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TwoSix, post: 8795499, member: 205"] Oh, I don't think 5e is anywhere close to balanced. But inefficient characters simply aren't as fun at the table, for me. Why would I want to stare at some unneeded trivia on my character sheet that means nothing to my character, simply because it came with my class? Yes, absolutely. The one time I had a character play a "Dex fighter", I compensated them for the unused heavy armor proficiency. (I gave them Medium Armor Mastery instead.) Well, I much prefer specialized casters with just a few spells over the broad generalization of standard 5e casters, so I'm probably not the best person to ask. :) Fair point. If a player brought it to my attention that they really wanted to trade out their weapon proficiencies to specialize, I would compensate them. Most martial types want the option to be able to use found magic weapons, though, since my games have fairly frequent and randomized items. [ATTACH=full]263521[/ATTACH] I like crunchy character building games plenty, but I've been arguing for a while now that D&D would work better [i]for its default playstyle[/i] if the game had limited options at the player end and encouraged fiction-based, diegetic character growth. Basically, make standard D&D more like a Troika! or Electric Bastionland, with dozens of low-weight starting options and then unfettered abilities, gained during play, from there. No real character building at all, pick an option and play. [/QUOTE]

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