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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8795750" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>No it's not (in my opinion).</p><p></p><p>If you told the group before the game began "The way the 2024 Bard is designed, I have been given Songs of Restoration as part of the class. But I do not intend to play a healer and will not heal with this character... so let's all just pretend like WotC never wrote this in the book. In fact, if necessary I'll take a Sharpie to my Player's Handbook right now"... then there is absolutely no reason why the group should get mad 20 weeks in when the party is in the midst of a giant big battle and you aren't healing anyone. If you are playing a College of Swords swashbuckler type and never heal people... none of your group should think "Oh, well that was fine the first 19 weeks when it didn't matter, but now we really need it, so you should change your character" and get upset at you if you do not. And if they DO get mad at you for not doing what you told them you wouldn't be doing... then they are asshats.</p><p></p><p>Should a group get mad at a Cleric player because they choose to play a Lawful Good holy man and thus choose never prepare any necromancy spells like <em>Speak With Dead</em>? Well, if they do get mad because they think "You know... talking with this corpse would be really handy right now if Bob The Cleric would just get over that whole 'morals' thing!", then I have no issue with saying they're being schmucks. And if it was me, I'd tell them to stuff it.</p><p></p><p>If you or anyone is unwilling or unable to have that conversation with your group for whatever reason... then I feel for you. That probably must suck. But your particular case of being stuck in an uncomfortable situation with a group that doesn't respect character choices is not enough of a reason for WotC to change up their design decisions on a whim. Now if you want to let them know that you think it could be an issue when you fill out your survey... that's exactly what you should do and I'd never say otherwise. But I also won't pretend like ever single idea that gets thrown out here on the messageboards is a fantastic one and that WotC should incorporate all of them. Because most of them I believe are not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 8795750, member: 7006"] No it's not (in my opinion). If you told the group before the game began "The way the 2024 Bard is designed, I have been given Songs of Restoration as part of the class. But I do not intend to play a healer and will not heal with this character... so let's all just pretend like WotC never wrote this in the book. In fact, if necessary I'll take a Sharpie to my Player's Handbook right now"... then there is absolutely no reason why the group should get mad 20 weeks in when the party is in the midst of a giant big battle and you aren't healing anyone. If you are playing a College of Swords swashbuckler type and never heal people... none of your group should think "Oh, well that was fine the first 19 weeks when it didn't matter, but now we really need it, so you should change your character" and get upset at you if you do not. And if they DO get mad at you for not doing what you told them you wouldn't be doing... then they are asshats. Should a group get mad at a Cleric player because they choose to play a Lawful Good holy man and thus choose never prepare any necromancy spells like [I]Speak With Dead[/I]? Well, if they do get mad because they think "You know... talking with this corpse would be really handy right now if Bob The Cleric would just get over that whole 'morals' thing!", then I have no issue with saying they're being schmucks. And if it was me, I'd tell them to stuff it. If you or anyone is unwilling or unable to have that conversation with your group for whatever reason... then I feel for you. That probably must suck. But your particular case of being stuck in an uncomfortable situation with a group that doesn't respect character choices is not enough of a reason for WotC to change up their design decisions on a whim. Now if you want to let them know that you think it could be an issue when you fill out your survey... that's exactly what you should do and I'd never say otherwise. But I also won't pretend like ever single idea that gets thrown out here on the messageboards is a fantastic one and that WotC should incorporate all of them. Because most of them I believe are not. [/QUOTE]
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