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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8796758" data-attributes="member: 7006">I actually don't care if any classes are Known Spells casters.&nbsp; Because once the game is released I'm going to make the rules my own.&nbsp; WotC can do whatever they want and I'll jerry-rig it to suit my needs.&nbsp; That's the entire point.&nbsp; It's why I don't get bent out of shape when these new rules ideas come in, because at the end of the day it doesn't matter.Now like I said... if you're saying your piece because you are hoping to influence enough people to agree with you and thus make all your desires known on the surveys so that WotC changes things back... then more power to you. You don't like the rule.&nbsp; That's cool.&nbsp; You want to see it changed.&nbsp; Awesome.&nbsp; You're going to tell WotC on their survey that you don't like the rule and you want to see it changed.&nbsp; Fair enough.&nbsp; That's what the survey is there for.The question is though... is your current argument for making Rangers go back to having Known Spells actually going to convince enough people to respond to the survey in the same way?&nbsp; Cause you're going to need to reduce the number of people who either like the change or don't find it in any way a hardship down to probably less than 75% for WotC to consider rolling things back.&nbsp; And at least in my case... your reasons have not made me think it's a bad idea or even consider scoring the survey poorly.&nbsp; You haven't made a convincing case in my opinion.&nbsp; And why do I argue with people who make what I consider poor arguments?&nbsp; Because we're on a message board and it's fun to talk about these things.But so be it.&nbsp; I'm also just one dude amongst the thousands of people who are going to respond.&nbsp; So if you think your arguments have been sufficient, then best of luck when the survey comes around!&nbsp; Maybe you've done a good enough job after all.&nbsp; We'll just have to wait and see.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 8796758, member: 7006"] I actually don't care if any classes are Known Spells casters. Because once the game is released I'm going to make the rules my own. WotC can do whatever they want and I'll jerry-rig it to suit my needs. That's the entire point. It's why I don't get bent out of shape when these new rules ideas come in, because at the end of the day it doesn't matter. Now like I said... if you're saying your piece because you are hoping to influence enough people to agree with you and thus make all your desires known on the surveys so that WotC changes things back... then more power to you. You don't like the rule. That's cool. You want to see it changed. Awesome. You're going to tell WotC on their survey that you don't like the rule and you want to see it changed. Fair enough. That's what the survey is there for. The question is though... is your current argument for making Rangers go back to having Known Spells actually going to convince enough people to respond to the survey in the same way? Cause you're going to need to reduce the number of people who either like the change or don't find it in any way a hardship down to probably less than 75% for WotC to consider rolling things back. And at least in my case... your reasons have not made me think it's a bad idea or even consider scoring the survey poorly. You haven't made a convincing case in my opinion. And why do I argue with people who make what I consider poor arguments? Because we're on a message board and it's fun to talk about these things. But so be it. I'm also just one dude amongst the thousands of people who are going to respond. So if you think your arguments have been sufficient, then best of luck when the survey comes around! Maybe you've done a good enough job after all. We'll just have to wait and see. [/QUOTE]

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