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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8796838" data-attributes="member: 7006">[USER=18]@Ruin Explorer[/USER] I think you have made a really good summation here about the differences, and will make it easy for people to see what side of the wall they fall on.&nbsp; Great work!And your list makes it even clearer to me exactly why the argument for Known Spells falters for me, because I myself believe only #2 to be a real issue.&nbsp; In #1s case I'm a believer that personality and individuality comes out of roleplaying and how you play the personality of the character and not game mechanics used to represent it... and for #3 that if you are at a table where players CAN pressure you to play your PC in ways you don't want... you should get away from those toxic players as quickly as possible and the game would be doing you no favors in putting in rules to just try to and reduce their toxicity to you.&nbsp; If you play with jerks... wanting rules in the game just so the jerks don't hurt you as much is not a great look and isn't something I think WotC should be doing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 8796838, member: 7006"] [USER=18]@Ruin Explorer[/USER] I think you have made a really good summation here about the differences, and will make it easy for people to see what side of the wall they fall on. Great work! And your list makes it even clearer to me exactly why the argument for Known Spells falters for me, because I myself believe only #2 to be a real issue. In #1s case I'm a believer that personality and individuality comes out of roleplaying and how you play the personality of the character and not game mechanics used to represent it... and for #3 that if you are at a table where players CAN pressure you to play your PC in ways you don't want... you should get away from those toxic players as quickly as possible and the game would be doing you no favors in putting in rules to just try to and reduce their toxicity to you. If you play with jerks... wanting rules in the game just so the jerks don't hurt you as much is not a great look and isn't something I think WotC should be doing. [/QUOTE]

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