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<blockquote data-quote="wolff96" data-source="post: 5475520" data-attributes="member: 342"><p>And that's *one way* to play a monk. You seem to take it as a core concept that monks <em>must</em> be built around survivability. It's not the case. There are other ways to build a monk that will contribute as much (or in some cases, more) to a party.</p><p></p><p>With the same ability set, you could make an offensive monk that hits significantly harder. His defenses will be lower. But -- again, IMO -- the best defense is a good offense. No one can cause damage if they're dead.</p><p></p><p>And a high strength monk with a flurry of blows will kill things nearly as fast as a fighter, though with a slightly lower chance to hit. </p><p></p><p>--------------------</p><p></p><p>The only PF monk I've played was a high-strength Half-Orc with the Improved Grapple bonus feat. +7 Grapple at 1st level isn't bad. Neither is a Flurry of Blows at +4/+4 for 1d6+5 per hit.</p><p></p><p>My AC was only 15 (+2 Dex, +3 Wis), compared to your dwarf's 17 (+3 Dex, +4 Wis), but it's nothing to scoff at. Especially because the party Sorcerer would usually toss me a Mage Armor.</p><p></p><p>I couldn't do the Elemental Fist thing once a day for an extra d6, but my average damage was higher per strike than the Elemental Fist power of your dwarf 1/day. (That goes up with higher levels, of course, as you get more uses of EF). Then again, my second level feat was Power Attack anyway, so my damage continued to hop up pretty well.</p><p></p><p>--------------------</p><p></p><p>No one in this thread is bashing the monk or telling you you're wrong for wanting to play a survivor monk. But there *are* other ways to play a monk.</p><p></p><p>Not to mention that a more offensively-focused monk can still handle every example you listed. Although he'll probably wrestle the fighter down, rather than KO him. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wolff96, post: 5475520, member: 342"] And that's *one way* to play a monk. You seem to take it as a core concept that monks [i]must[/i] be built around survivability. It's not the case. There are other ways to build a monk that will contribute as much (or in some cases, more) to a party. With the same ability set, you could make an offensive monk that hits significantly harder. His defenses will be lower. But -- again, IMO -- the best defense is a good offense. No one can cause damage if they're dead. And a high strength monk with a flurry of blows will kill things nearly as fast as a fighter, though with a slightly lower chance to hit. -------------------- The only PF monk I've played was a high-strength Half-Orc with the Improved Grapple bonus feat. +7 Grapple at 1st level isn't bad. Neither is a Flurry of Blows at +4/+4 for 1d6+5 per hit. My AC was only 15 (+2 Dex, +3 Wis), compared to your dwarf's 17 (+3 Dex, +4 Wis), but it's nothing to scoff at. Especially because the party Sorcerer would usually toss me a Mage Armor. I couldn't do the Elemental Fist thing once a day for an extra d6, but my average damage was higher per strike than the Elemental Fist power of your dwarf 1/day. (That goes up with higher levels, of course, as you get more uses of EF). Then again, my second level feat was Power Attack anyway, so my damage continued to hop up pretty well. -------------------- No one in this thread is bashing the monk or telling you you're wrong for wanting to play a survivor monk. But there *are* other ways to play a monk. Not to mention that a more offensively-focused monk can still handle every example you listed. Although he'll probably wrestle the fighter down, rather than KO him. :) [/QUOTE]
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