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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 5287598" data-attributes="member: 59082">&quot;4e is the edition that is always getting better.&quot;Excellent post. I agree with pretty much everything you say in this post and think you bring a larger (publishing) context that has been missing, at least from what I've seen. I said pretty much the same thing as the above quote in the, ahem, thread I started on &quot;calling a spade a spade.&quot; yet despite me using the term &quot;4.5&quot; I am not whining about WotC or saying the sky is falling, or what have you. Actually, I've seen relatively little of that (but again, I've only joined The Conversation just yesterday, so probably missed the juiciest stuff!). So in the context of wide agreement and appreciation of your post, I do take issue with this implication that saying &quot;Essentials=4.5&quot; is inherently whiny or paranoid or freaking out.How about this; I agree with you and I think Essentials is &quot;4.5ish&quot; or &quot;4.something,&quot; but that &quot;something&quot; is what you described: an ongoing, ever-evolving and updating 4E. But that's just it: that's the &quot;new .5.&quot; That's the model for continual expansion (and products) that WotC has decided to go with. It doesn't invalidate the core rules, but it does encourage people to buy more product by, in a sense, providing a newer and shinier--and presumably better--core rules.I mean, you said it yourself: this isn't 2003. Publishing a 4.5 would be disastrous. But companies like WotC, or the D&amp;D branch at least, don't survive by re-printing core rules, coming up with &quot;innovative&quot; splats like Martial Power 26 and The Complete Book of Carnivorous Guinea Fowl; they have to come up with true innovations, whether in the form of new editions or partial-editions or new directions. I'm not exactly sure what Essentials is yet; heck, maybe WotC doesn't even know. But it is something, and it is more than just a re-packaging or another round of &quot;Powers&quot; books. And I'm glad of it! Hurray for Essentials! If what you say is true, that &quot;4E is the [first] edition that is always getting better,&quot; then I'm glad for it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 5287598, member: 59082"] [B]"4e is the edition that is always getting better." [/B]Excellent post. I agree with pretty much everything you say in this post and think you bring a larger (publishing) context that has been missing, at least from what I've seen. I said pretty much the same thing as the above quote in the, ahem, thread I started on "calling a spade a spade." yet despite me using the term "4.5" I am [I]not [/I]whining about WotC or saying the sky is falling, or what have you. Actually, I've seen relatively little of that (but again, I've only joined The Conversation just yesterday, so probably missed the juiciest stuff!). So in the context of wide agreement and appreciation of your post, I do take issue with this implication that saying "Essentials=4.5" is inherently whiny or paranoid or freaking out. How about this; I agree with you [I]and [/I]I think Essentials is "4.5ish" or "4.something," but that "something" is what you described: an ongoing, ever-evolving and updating 4E. But that's just it: that's the "new .5." That's the model for continual expansion (and products) that WotC has decided to go with. It doesn't invalidate the core rules, but it does encourage people to buy more product by, in a sense, providing a newer and shinier--and presumably [I]better[/I]--core rules. I mean, you said it yourself: this isn't 2003. Publishing a 4.5 would be disastrous. But companies like WotC, or the D&D branch at least, don't survive by re-printing core rules, coming up with "innovative" splats like [I]Martial Power 26[/I] and [I]The Complete Book of Carnivorous Guinea Fowl[/I]; they have to come up with true innovations, whether in the form of new editions or partial-editions or new directions. I'm not exactly sure what Essentials is yet; heck, maybe WotC doesn't even know. But it is [I]something, [/I]and it is more than just a re-packaging or another round of "Powers" books. And I'm glad of it! Hurray for Essentials! If what you say is true, that "4E is the [first] edition that is always getting better," then I'm glad for it. [/QUOTE]

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