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<blockquote data-quote="Caliber" data-source="post: 829679" data-attributes="member: 1310"><p>The Mystic Theurge doesn't seem broken to me. Almost overpowered, but not quite there. </p><p></p><p>To be honest, it only look bad when A) you bring it into Epic Levels or B) when you start throwing other PrCs into the mix. </p><p></p><p>But then, most PrCs start looking broken when combined with others. </p><p></p><p>How many threads are started every day about archers who have all 4 of the archer PrCs and are ridiculously strong (or even just 3 of the PrCs ... it doesn't really matter!)</p><p></p><p>While the True Necromancer is a creative attempt at showing the MT's brokeness I don't think it really works. Sure your Necromancy spells are hard to dispel, and you go through SR like butter. </p><p></p><p>Your damage is still capped where it normally is and your save DCs are not unduly raised. </p><p></p><p>I'd say the best chance of making a broken MT is to combine it with another PrC that is supposed to mix arcane and divine magic. </p><p></p><p>The only two that come to mind is the Geomancer and the True Necro. Even these combinations, while potent, are not really that bad. </p><p></p><p>Versatility for oomph. Versatility which, for the most part, will not be fully utilized (ie, you'll rarely use ALL of your spells)</p><p></p><p>You can be almost as good as a Cleric or a Wizard (if you use those two classes) and in some ways better (if you throw even more PrCs into the mix) but you aren't as good as either in their own field. </p><p></p><p>I know I've rambled a bit, and the only excuse I can offer is that it is late. But to sum up, I have a feeling this is going to be one of those issues that continually rotates through the boards, without ever reaching a firm descision. I say they're not unbalanced, but its really totally subjective and little anyone else shows me can really make me change my mind.</p><p></p><p>That pretty much goes for everyone who thinks it IS unbalanced as well, I would assume.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Caliber, post: 829679, member: 1310"] The Mystic Theurge doesn't seem broken to me. Almost overpowered, but not quite there. To be honest, it only look bad when A) you bring it into Epic Levels or B) when you start throwing other PrCs into the mix. But then, most PrCs start looking broken when combined with others. How many threads are started every day about archers who have all 4 of the archer PrCs and are ridiculously strong (or even just 3 of the PrCs ... it doesn't really matter!) While the True Necromancer is a creative attempt at showing the MT's brokeness I don't think it really works. Sure your Necromancy spells are hard to dispel, and you go through SR like butter. Your damage is still capped where it normally is and your save DCs are not unduly raised. I'd say the best chance of making a broken MT is to combine it with another PrC that is supposed to mix arcane and divine magic. The only two that come to mind is the Geomancer and the True Necro. Even these combinations, while potent, are not really that bad. Versatility for oomph. Versatility which, for the most part, will not be fully utilized (ie, you'll rarely use ALL of your spells) You can be almost as good as a Cleric or a Wizard (if you use those two classes) and in some ways better (if you throw even more PrCs into the mix) but you aren't as good as either in their own field. I know I've rambled a bit, and the only excuse I can offer is that it is late. But to sum up, I have a feeling this is going to be one of those issues that continually rotates through the boards, without ever reaching a firm descision. I say they're not unbalanced, but its really totally subjective and little anyone else shows me can really make me change my mind. That pretty much goes for everyone who thinks it IS unbalanced as well, I would assume. [/QUOTE]
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