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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3102088" data-attributes="member: 141">Re: Theurgic SavantI see you are concerned about the bane of multiclassed spellcasters: multiple ability dependence (MAD).  If a character has to keep Intelligence, Wisdom (and Charisma) at high levels, he won't be able to get the spell DCs and bonus spells of a single-class caster.  Bonus spells aren't really a problem (you have twice as many spells going in) but the spell DCs are a different story.  This feat goes an awful long way towards closing the gap; it's equivalent to a +4 ability boost in both classes.  Let's see. A single-class character might have a starting array of 16, 12, 12 (18 points) in her mental stats.  All her level up bonuses go to the high score, and she has a +6 buff item (36,000 gp).  27, 12, 12, and a +8  bonus to spell DCs.A multiclass character has 14, 14, 14 in those arrays (18 points), divides his level up bonuses fairly equally, and has two +4 buff items and a +2 buff item (36,000 gp).  20, 20, 17.  A +5 bonus to the spell DCs, but +7 with Theurgic Savant.I bet the single-class caster will feel she should have more than a +1 lead in the save DCs relative to the multiclass caster.  Especially since this lead disappears if the latter character gets the best non-epic ability buffs.  Sure he has to have spent more feats, but he can turn undead very well (because he didn't make Charisma his dump stat), he suffers no caster level penalties (which would normally require 2 Practiced Spellcaster feats), and he has all the normal benefits of high ability scores.Re: True TheurgistSo a 3rd level cleric/18th level wizard suddenly shoots from having 2nd level cleric spells to having 9th level cleric spells?  This doubling of high level spells doesn't strike you as a little over the top?Re: Epic TheurgistI don't endorse the ELH system of magic.  And I don't think that any character should be able to double the number of epic spells they can cast through a single feat.</blockquote>

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