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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7278307" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>That has nothing to do with my experience. Calling a work effort lazy is literally calling the person(s) involved lazy. Work by itself can't be lazy, by definition. Only the people doing it because lazy is a description of behavior. So by literal definition, that's a shot at someone and not just a criticism of the work. Especially since it's just an opinionated guess with not evidence or objective basis behind making it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Reread what I said. I didn't say everyone who bought the book is an armchair quarterback. This is a weak strawman. I said people such as the OP who are throwing a fit and assuming they could do better. That's what an armchair quarterback is, by definition. Someone who doesn't actually do the job, but makes comments about how they can do or know better. That is a much tighter group than "everyone who bought the book who isn't an editor". By your logic, me calling a football fan who yells at the coach for a poor job an armchair quarterback means I'm calling <em>all </em>football fans who watch the game armchair quarterbacks. Obviously not true.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, go back and read my posts. I play in the AL. And I'm here to tell you, even with that error in the books, I don't know a single person in the AL that wouldn't play that subclass as intended and realize the error for what it is. It's obviously an error, and I don't know a single person who would say, "Nope, rules as written says you don't get it until 7th level no matter how obvious it is, or how many times WoTC has already put out information about how it should be. I'm gonna ignore the errata and force you to play as it says in the book." Anyone who DMs AL should already know how to play that class based on the info WoTC put out. It's your responsibility as a DM to keep up with these things, and that's even ignoring how every DM I know in AL would play it as intended, and not the actual text. Therefore, it's not an actual problem that occurs. If anyone can provide me with one example of an AL DM forcing the player to play an arcane archer as it's written in the book, I'll retract that.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Indeed. Avoiding strawmen is another piece of good advice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7278307, member: 15700"] That has nothing to do with my experience. Calling a work effort lazy is literally calling the person(s) involved lazy. Work by itself can't be lazy, by definition. Only the people doing it because lazy is a description of behavior. So by literal definition, that's a shot at someone and not just a criticism of the work. Especially since it's just an opinionated guess with not evidence or objective basis behind making it. Reread what I said. I didn't say everyone who bought the book is an armchair quarterback. This is a weak strawman. I said people such as the OP who are throwing a fit and assuming they could do better. That's what an armchair quarterback is, by definition. Someone who doesn't actually do the job, but makes comments about how they can do or know better. That is a much tighter group than "everyone who bought the book who isn't an editor". By your logic, me calling a football fan who yells at the coach for a poor job an armchair quarterback means I'm calling [I]all [/I]football fans who watch the game armchair quarterbacks. Obviously not true. Again, go back and read my posts. I play in the AL. And I'm here to tell you, even with that error in the books, I don't know a single person in the AL that wouldn't play that subclass as intended and realize the error for what it is. It's obviously an error, and I don't know a single person who would say, "Nope, rules as written says you don't get it until 7th level no matter how obvious it is, or how many times WoTC has already put out information about how it should be. I'm gonna ignore the errata and force you to play as it says in the book." Anyone who DMs AL should already know how to play that class based on the info WoTC put out. It's your responsibility as a DM to keep up with these things, and that's even ignoring how every DM I know in AL would play it as intended, and not the actual text. Therefore, it's not an actual problem that occurs. If anyone can provide me with one example of an AL DM forcing the player to play an arcane archer as it's written in the book, I'll retract that. Indeed. Avoiding strawmen is another piece of good advice. [/QUOTE]
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