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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 9003777" data-attributes="member: 87792">The thing here is that I don't think many people are claiming that the 2014 warlock is broken-good. Decent, yes. Broken-good when compared to e.g. the wizard, no. And I don't think your D&Done warlock is in the league of your classic one.Anyway, build critique:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Armour of Shadows for the 2014 warlock with light armour is at best a "style invocation". When you can wear light armour for Dex +12 spending an entire invocation for Dex +13 is a waste. (It's even worse in the D&Done warlock where you can wear medium armour or even just spend a first level slot for Mage Armour). This is literally the worst invocation in the entire playtest packet; Fiendish Vigour (False Life At Will) is a far better choice if you want an invocation to make yourself tougher - and it doesn't have great scaling.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Scorching ray barely does more damage than a two-bolt Eldritch Blast and it does the same thing.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Arms of Hadar was a fine warlock spell at level 1 - but the upcast version is awful. It should be traded out for Hunger of Hadar at level 5 or 6</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Likewise Burning Hands for Fireball</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Not that you need either both Arms of Hadar and Burning Hands or Hunger of Hadar and Fireball as your messy AoE of choice.</li> </ul>So our 7th level "classic" warlock might instead know  Hex, Misty Step, Blindness/Deafness, Invisibility, Fly, Fireball, Counterspell, Banishment. (The only one of these spells that doesn't scale is Misty Step); I don't think that this caster is any less well rounded than either of yours. And this ability to dump their out-leveled spells is one of the reasons the warlock doesn't lead to as much analysis paralysis and reading through spells a little lost as other casters.The reason you'd do that is if you wanted to cast banishment four times in one fight. The warlock can't do that; part of the point of the warlock's mechanics is to cap their ability. And all Banishment really is in most cases is a save-or-don't-be-here spell. It's a spell to bring down on a boss monster.</blockquote>

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