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<blockquote data-quote="Thurbane" data-source="post: 3775535" data-attributes="member: 43273"><p>Well, you are making some assumptions there that aren't neccessarily true...</p><p></p><p>Firstly, when did "many" automatically equal "most"? I certainly didn't intend it that way, I was simply stressing that not everyone out there wants the existing magic system done away with. I'm not going to argue percentages or margins, as I don't have the hard data to back this up.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, only part of the current D&D magic system is Vancian. Technically, only Wizards (and to a lesser Degree, Clerics and Druids), are Vancian. Socerers, Bards and all the other spontaneous casters really aren't following an especially Vancian method of casting. Have you read Vance's works? They discuss pre-memorizing specific spells until your brain simply cannot hold any more. Not much at all like spontaneous casting. And the fact is there are a lot more base classes out there in 3.5 that are spontaneous than those that have to memorise.</p><p></p><p>...anyway, my point was never "I like it this way, so nothing should change!" it was more along the lines of "Hey, some of us like it the way it is, don't sweep our opinions under the rug altogether!". <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thurbane, post: 3775535, member: 43273"] Well, you are making some assumptions there that aren't neccessarily true... Firstly, when did "many" automatically equal "most"? I certainly didn't intend it that way, I was simply stressing that not everyone out there wants the existing magic system done away with. I'm not going to argue percentages or margins, as I don't have the hard data to back this up. Secondly, only part of the current D&D magic system is Vancian. Technically, only Wizards (and to a lesser Degree, Clerics and Druids), are Vancian. Socerers, Bards and all the other spontaneous casters really aren't following an especially Vancian method of casting. Have you read Vance's works? They discuss pre-memorizing specific spells until your brain simply cannot hold any more. Not much at all like spontaneous casting. And the fact is there are a lot more base classes out there in 3.5 that are spontaneous than those that have to memorise. ...anyway, my point was never "I like it this way, so nothing should change!" it was more along the lines of "Hey, some of us like it the way it is, don't sweep our opinions under the rug altogether!". ;) [/QUOTE]
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