They had one job: Attack of the Gerrymander! Edition

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Dannyalcatraz

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It seems some politicos are going to have to eat some extra antacids for a while, because in an effort to make sure a vote went a particular way, they gerrymandered the district so that it contained no registered voters, meaning the business owners could decide the outcome.

Except, when they finished, the gerrymandered district still had a registered voter in it. A single one.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...8a0e4b0b7a96339d00a?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

I don't have any is test in how this particular vote goes, but I so dearly wish I could be there to see the results on voting night, watching with a nice glass of Piehole whiskey (on the rocks) in my hand.

Because I HATE GERRYMANDERING! I don't care which party does it, I want to see it die in a fire.
 

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People have been hating Gerrymandering for quite a while. I haven't seen a universally-appreciated solution to the problem yet, though I would love to see one if one existed.
 

People have been hating Gerrymandering for quite a while. I haven't seen a universally-appreciated solution to the problem yet, though I would love to see one if one existed.

Let us note the basic issues with gerrymandered Congressional districts - in such a district, the minority party, and even more moderate elements of the dominant party, can be ignored. The dominant party can be sure that whatever candidate they put on the ballot will carry the district. These districts then generally get ignored by all parties in campaigning, as the result is pretty much a done deal. You will often see the dominant party running for House of Representatives unopposed in such districts.

One basic solution is for the legislature to hand over its districting power to a non-partisan body, so you don't get districts that have been engineered to be highly dominated by one party or the other.

"In Iowa, the nonpartisan Legislative Services Bureau determines boundaries of electoral districts. The bureau forbids considerations of incumbent impact, previous boundary locations, and political party proportions while satisfying federally mandated contiguity and population equality criteria. Iowa's resulting districts are generally regular polygons, not strangely shaped, politically motivated lines."

If you don't trust that body to be non-partisan, you can form it to have equal representation: Say a party of five - two chosen by each major party, and one that is chosen by the four.

Another solution was a "blanket primary", in which party membership plays no part. As a voter, you walk in and you vote for *whoever* you want on the ballot, regardless of party affiliation. You could choose a democrat for Governor, a Republican for your State Senator, and a Green party member for you City Council. The top vote-getter in each party advances to the general election.

These have been tried (instituted by the voters) in California and Washington State. The political parties *hated* blanket primaries, and sued to have them changed. The Supreme Court shot blanket primaries down, on the basis that infinges on the party's right of free association. https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/530/567/case.html

Folks in CA and WA worked hard to find a way to work it (led by then Gov. Schwarzenegger, would you believe?). The found a Constitutional solution - the top two vote-getters *regardless of party* go to the general election. So, you can end up with two Democrats and no Republicans on the ballot for the Governor's office in the final election, as an example. So, now in CA and WA, in the primaries, voters vote for *anyone*, and get the top-two folks on the ballot, no matter what party they are in.

The result is that in the primaries, if the usual hyper-partisan candidate the majority party would put up can be effectively challenged. Since the voters no longer care about party lines in the primary, a moderate can attempt to scoop out otherwise ignored voters from both parties, and beat out a hyper-partisan candidate.
 

Iowa's solution to Gerrymandering sounds workable to me. Thanks!

Now we need a long track record of similar arrangements in dozens of other states, so we can be sure it holds water.
 

Another potential solution is go the Israeli way and have no district at all. "The electoral threshold is currently set at 3.25%, with the number of seats a party receives in the Knesset being proportional to the number of votes it receives." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Israel

Of course, this comes with its own set of problems, like radical fringe parties getting more influence than they should as no major party gets the 62 seats needed to form the government and pass laws.
 

Another potential solution is go the Israeli way and have no district at all.

That would be difficult to implement here - each person in our House of Representatives is tied to a geographical district. You have a Representative that represents your area in Congress.

There are reasons to *not* dismantle the system - making the Representatives for the State as a whole presents some electoral process issues - it isn't several people vying for *a* seat, it becomes a mob of people vying for a handful of seats, which is a far more difficult thing to manage on a ballot, and would make becoming an educated voter very difficult, as you have the entire mod of candidates to familiarize yourself with before voting. Removing the geographical connection can also lead to densely populated areas effectively stealing representation away from rural areas of a State.

Simply finding ways to remove partisanship from drawing district lines would be sufficient.
 

That would be difficult to implement here - each person in our House of Representatives is tied to a geographical district. You have a Representative that represents your area in Congress.

There are reasons to *not* dismantle the system - making the Representatives for the State as a whole presents some electoral process issues - it isn't several people vying for *a* seat, it becomes a mob of people vying for a handful of seats, which is a far more difficult thing to manage on a ballot, and would make becoming an educated voter very difficult, as you have the entire mod of candidates to familiarize yourself with before voting. Removing the geographical connection can also lead to densely populated areas effectively stealing representation away from rural areas of a State.

Simply finding ways to remove partisanship from drawing district lines would be sufficient.

Let a computer draw the lines for instance?

TX has been bad about Gerrymandering. It's also been Republican dominated for quite awhile. I think TX also weaseled out of scrutiny for their voting regulations that it and a bunch of other states were on the hot list for.

TX is broken.
 

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