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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kemrain" data-source="post: 2180269" data-attributes="member: 12153">I'll send the GnG 3.3 rules out when I get home from work and have access to the pdf.I agree with you that a finite moral description is a bad idea. I must not be explaining myself terribly well.  Type and Subtype have nothing at all to do with your morality, merely the type of spells that will effect you. I assume that everyone has the Balance subtype until shown otherwise bytheir alliegences and actions. To get the Lawful subtype from the Builder, you need to show your devotion, and all it will get you is healed by Heal Law and not harmed by Evoke Law.  Type, in this instance, is merely a reference for spells, and has nothing to do with morality.Actually, it has more to do with Ethics than Morality, as Thief is a Law vs. Chaos setting more than it's ever been a Good vs. Evil setting.  I suspect that this is just a taste issue, so I won't get myself in a bind over it.Well, my paycheck, for one.. I'm poor, and I don't feel comfortable buying a book I haven't looked at extensively. You're excited about it, but nearly everything I've heard about it turns me off. Grim Tales sounds a lot like d20 Modern done in fantasy, and that's not a plus for me. I don't like the d20 Modern implimentation of Action Points (getting them once per level makes my skin crawl) and I don't really like the talent trees of the base classes. I don't think the book would be right for me, even if it did have a lot of good info, because the system isn't up my dark alley and I just don't have the funds to buy books I wouldn't utelize heavily.- Kemrain the At Work.</blockquote>

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