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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pvt. Winslow" data-source="post: 6517613" data-attributes="member: 6779864">I can definitely see times where you would allow it to succeed without a roll, such as in a crowded marketplace and no one was directly watching the PC, or there's just so much distraction there's no worry about sound. However, could you give me an example of times where it would fail without a roll? I can think of maybe two off the top of my head, and I want to see if I'm in the same line of thinking as you.1) Character is waist deep in water. Turning invisible doesn't displace the water around you, or stop ripples from emanating, so until you're out of the water, this would be an auto-fail (you still can't be seen, so if they do attack you they have Disadvantage and can't actually take attacks of opportunity against you, which is still nice).2) Character is standing in area where it is impossible to not make noise when moving, or noise is already issuing from character, such as crackling acid on them or some clockwork device that makes noise. You would be invisible, but the noise makes it easy to pinpoint your exact square.Are those the kind of scenarios you mean?</blockquote>